[Sys1]

"There is an often quoted story of a frog and a bucket of water. It illustrates the law of deterioration. If you take an intelligent, happy frog and drop him into a bucket of boiling water, what will the frog do? Jump out ! Instantly, the frog decides: "This is no fun - I'm gone"

If you take the same frog, or a relative, and drop him into a bucket of cold water, put the bucket on the stove and gradually heat up the bucket, what then ? The frog's relaxing; a few minutes later he says to himself: "It seems warm in here." Soon enough you have a cooked frog."

Well, i just copyed-pasted this little story. Now the point : nobody seems to care about peak oil for the moment, even if we are just in it (let's say just before or after). Some people spoke about hard crash economy but in my opinion things are going pretty slow. Nobody notices energy crisis on TV or in newspaper. All is just about growth or politic.
My question is: do you think we will stay on a soft slope until end of oil or do you think that exists a trigger that will suddenly change this slope to a cliff (like war or fast economy collapse like in 1929) ?

[SD_Scott]

I think the frog in the second example would still jump out. We wouldn't though.

[linlithgowoil]

i dont think there will be a sudden overnight run to $200 oil unless some event happens like saudi arabia revolution, war in iran etc. if things chug along as they are with demand outpacing supply, i think oil will simply gradually go up by a few dollars a month until people in general just cant understand why its doing this.

things will slowly start to fall apart, with those on stretched incomes who are just getting by right now going bankrupt - then as things get even more expensive, a lot of comfortably off people will start to feel the squeeze, and things will generally take a downturn.

i do not foresee an overnight collapse unless there is some kind of global war with china or something.

[Egon_1]

That particular frog story is urban myth.

[Barbara]

When prices will begin to grow too much, they'll blame someone, invade him, blame the war for the prices, then say "at the end of the war everything will be OK again".
Meanwhile, people will learn to adjust to live with less oil.
I'm serious.

[FatherOfTwo]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Barbara', 'W')hen prices will begin to grow too much, they'll blame someone, invade him, blame the war for the prices, then say "at the end of the war everything will be OK again".
Meanwhile, people will learn to adjust to live with less oil.
I'm serious.

[johnmarkos]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Egon_1', 'T')hat particular frog story is urban myth.

[rostov]

Damned. I was seriously about to try it...Thanks for the urban myth link. Anyone still wants a video demo?

[skiwi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('johnmarkos', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Egon_1', 'T')hat particular frog story is urban myth.

[tmazanec1]

FatherOfTwo:
Yes, we are stretched to the limit in Iraq. Yes, we will invade Iran. Thjere is an easy solution to this paradox. It consists of telegrams reading "Greetings! You have won an all-expenses paid vacation to the sunny Middle East from your Uncle Sam. Please report to Camp Whatchamacallit at 8 AM tomorrow to claim your prize. Failure to accept this offer will result in a fine of $25,000 and an imprisonment of ten years."

[pea-jay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')y question is : do you think we will stay on a soft slope until end of oil or do you think that exists a trigger that will suddenly change this slope to a cliff (like war or fast economy collapse like in 1929) ?

[PenultimateManStanding]

The analogy of frogs in a pot of water with the temperature rising, i.e. incremental exacerbation of our situation isn't what I'm feeling like the future holds. I think we're going to reach some critical mass (to use another famous analogy) in the next 18 months. The shit will hit the fan, or, if you like this analogy, the frogs in the microwave will pop making a bloody mess.

[gnm]

Is it just me, <ribbit> or is it <ribbit>, getting hot in here? <ribbit>

<POP!>

-G

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', 'I')s it just me, <ribbit> or is it <ribbit>, getting hot in here? <ribbit>

<POP!>

-G

[skiwi]

Predictable if you have some belief in the Mayan Calendar and Peak Oil amongst others......................
I'm not smart enough to know what's going to happen and how it will all pan out
but I am smart enough to know something's coming and turmoil will accompany the change.

I even thought Michael Tsarion brought up some interesting points on C2C last week
about the possibility of an etheral/techno barrier trapping the descendants of
the nephilim on earth and there desperation to escape before ...

Anyway this rat is out of the race. The removalists arrive later this week
Now to listen to the latest of what David Icke's got to say on the same show

[Rhinestones]

Agreed PMS.
Given 2 bad choices, i'd prefer TLSSS over sudden collapse. Events however seem to indicate we're near the breaking point.

I have the feeling however that whatever occurs will be orchestrated by TPTB. From that conclusion i'm seeing the new Bankruptcy bill as a good indicator of WHEN. Is is true that the BK bill takes effect 6 months after GWB signs it? I don't believe it has been signed yet.

[skiwi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'W')e're so far out on a limb, that its not going just slowly sag, its going to break.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rhinestones', '
')I have the feeling however that whatever occurs will be orchestrated by TPTB. From that conclusion i'm seeing the new Bankruptcy bill as a good indicator of WHEN. Is is true that the BK bill takes effect 6 months after GWB signs it? I don't believe it has been signed yet.

[Specop_007]

[PenultimateManStanding]

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