[JuanP]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('C8', 'O')K- the serious answer: I believe a lot of the Club of Rome modeling was pretty good and has held up well considering how far back it was done (70's). It forecasts a lot of problems developing with a collision point somewhere around this decade. Fossil Fuels are the basis of civilization, not just for power & transport but chemicals and especially fertilizer. Allowing for errors of the CoR forecasts, I see the peak of oil and other FF's as occurring some time before 2050 and the downslope will be a steep decline. This will spur mass disruption and war.

Now this collapse will be far worse than any before in history. I believe our reliance on digital technology has made us extra sensitive to breakdown. Too many things that are controlled by computers will fail as power collapses. The population is fat, sick, and far removed from the farming, hunting skills needed to survive. The abundance of firearms will lead to mass killing and further collapse. Nuclear reactors will meltdown and nuke missiles may be launched in a misguided belief that we can have a limited nuclear war. Modern civilization has gotten out on an evolutionary limb and has lost generalist skills. We are far too specialized.

In short: we have lost many critical survival skills, we will lose too many resources too fast, we have too much firepower at our disposal when SHTF.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('C8', '
')First, I should tell you that I am from the future. I come from 2234 and my outpost found a dig-site where a prepper from your time period held out. His skeleton was found next to a Remington rifle that had "PeakOil was right- suck it Adam" scratched on it.

[vtsnowedin]

If they dig me up they will find a note that says sorry buddy my children and grand children were wise enough to keep all my guns including my Ruger M77 with Leupold scope and the Winchester in 300 Win mag just to kick your sorry ass back where you came from.

[theluckycountry]

I was watching the vid of the Texas dude who shot that 20yo black guy that held up a taco restaurant. Classic, he emptied the criminals pockets and told the people to take back what was there's before calmly walking out to his rusty truck and driving off. If I lived in an American suburb it would have to be in Texas.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', ' ')If I lived in an American suburb it would have to be in Texas.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'I') was watching the vid of the Texas dude who shot that 20yo black guy that held up a taco restaurant. Classic, he emptied the criminals pockets and told the people to take back what was there's before calmly walking out to his rusty truck and driving off. If I lived in an American suburb it would have to be in Texas.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')Unfortunately, Houston is run by the Ds and they've got a George Soros funded wacky far left D in charge of their city justice department.As a result, the armed robber isn't even been held in jail----he has already been released on bail.

[theluckycountry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')
Unfortunately, Houston is run by the Ds and they've got a George Soros funded wacky far left D in charge of their city justice department.

As a result, the armed robber isn't even been held in jail----he has already been released on bail. Meanwhile the hero who stopped the robbery is now being investigated by a grand jury [/url]

SHEESH!

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', ' ')If I lived in Texas I'd carry Two guns, and I'd practice every week.

[ROCKMAN]

There is one problem with being armed here in Houston for self-defense. Been seeing develop here for the last 10+ years or so: the bad guys are anticipating armed potential victims. So instead of saying "Put your hands up and give me your money." they simply shoot the victim and take what they want. Also, when they sense any potential resistance. Getting to be more and more common in carjacking and convenience store hold ups as well as home invasions. That may have been a factor in that restaurant shooting: the shooter may have anticipated that if one customer had resisted, he would have been killed. And there's the natural fear that a bad guy might not to leave live witnesses behind.

Not sure how common it is in the rest of the country but in Houston we are having numerous road rage shooting every month. Too many folks with anger management problems carrying for self-defense. Sometimes it takes nothing more than honking your horn to get a few rounds heading your way.

I carry myself. Not my nature to shoot anyone to protect my property. Being partially handicapped in a power wheelchair I'm sure I look like easy prey. If they want my wallet I would pull it out my pouch and give it to them. Being carjacked is no worry either: just back my wheelchair away from steering wheel showing no driver's seat and interest would be quickly lost. LOL

OTOH if my or someone else's safety appears to be at risk pulling my snub-nosed .38 out of my pouch becomes an option. Something I doubt many bad guys would anticipate that. And had I been in that restaurant? I would have held it under the table waiting to see if the situation escalated. But I think I might understand our shooter: nine rounds fired rapidly seems like a panicked response. Not a surprise: a lot of practice at the range doesn't prepare someone for shooting at a live target that can shoot back.

[Newfie]

Well, you shoot to kill. Even a mortally wounded person can pull a trigger,

I have zero to say about the Texas incident as I have no knowledge of it. Just saying that once you decide to kill someone that is a very strong red line. And once crossed then it should be done comptently and completely because a wounded, or even scared, individual is likely to any damn thing and a poor job of killing may create more victums.it

I don't carry, no reflection on your decision. I just don't want to live where it is necessary.

IMO all this talk of concealed carry and "assualt" rifles does far more damage than good. The principal problem is illegal handguns including the whole supply chain. We have a number of ways to fight this but both parties choose not to.

The Philly DA is a prime example, he will not prosecute illegal gun crimes because there are too many people in prison. In the meantime the murder rate soars and he is reelected because his is a D party operative, no alternative, he is put in place by ward leaders.

[theluckycountry]

Trouble in LaLa land

Aussie house prices, some of the highest in the world, have tanked over 8% in the last year. That's an average of course, many have fallen a lot more. It's the biggest fall on record, driven mostly I suspect by the interest rate rises that have still to stop...

SYDNEY–Australian home prices have experienced their largest recorded decline, with further falls expected in the coming months should the central bank lift interest rates more. “The result takes the national housing downturn into new territory, breaking the previous record in peak-to-trough declines, when home values fell 8.38% between October 2017 and June 2019,” said Eliza Owen, CoreLogic Australia’s head of research.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realest ... r-AA167sUg

For nearly 40 years home prices here, city and rural, had doubled every decade. It was something investors counted on, but that trend has been broken now, smashed in fact. Like in most nations the scrub on the outer outer outskirts of the cities is still being bulldozed and crappy new developments are being built. God knows who's buying them though?

We are fast reaching the point I think where people will realize that the cheap energy needed to make these far out hell-holes viable is gone. The homes are made of pine-wood, plumbing is cheap plastic, the roads have a skim of blacktop that will crumble in a decade or less. These new burbs are like Potemkin villages, just a facade of quality over a mass of substandard building and infrastructure. Water is pumped in from dams 50 miles away, garbage removed to places 50 miles away. Then there is the transport costs! Aside from local supermarkets and perhaps a hardware, the booze outlets and fast food etc, there are no jobs near them, no industry, no business houses. In the future the ability of the inhabitants to drive off to a job 30 miles or more away will be severely curtailed.

Car pooling is great if you are all going in one direction but that is never the case in our modern world. It's amazing how many people drive past businesses on their way to a far off job, just to pass other drivers, from far away, coming to work at those same businesses. The Chinese model of factory dormitories is oppressive in the extreme, but it's logical. Australia is a big open place, it's very dependent on the car and cheap fuel.

[Newfie]

I believe Canada is a even more extreme example. Heating is killer


https://www.statista.com/statistics/383 ... y-country/

[yellowcanoe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'I') believe Canada is a even more extreme example. Heating is killer


https://www.statista.com/statistics/383 ... y-country/

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ROCKMAN', '
')OTOH if my or someone else's safety appears to be at risk pulling my snub-nosed .38 out of my pouch becomes an option.

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'W')ell, you shoot to kill. Even a mortally wounded person can pull a trigger,

[AdamB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', ' ')The Chinese model of factory dormitories is oppressive in the extreme, but it's logical. Australia is a big open place, it's very dependent on the car and cheap fuel.

[Outcast_Searcher]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'T')rouble in LaLa land

Aussie house prices, some of the highest in the world, have tanked over 8% in the last year. That's an average of course, many have fallen a lot more. It's the biggest fall on record, driven mostly I suspect by the interest rate rises that have still to stop...

[vtsnowedin]

While the price of housing is declining because of rising interest rates the cost to"own" ,meaning the size of the monthly combined cost of, principle plus interest plus property taxes is still going up and at a pretty fast clip. Those with a thirty year fixed at less then three percent interest will not sell unless they are under some emergency situation as they can't find a buyer willing to pay what they paid for it one or two years ago. Those looking to buy will find few good homes at fair prices and will probably be better off continuing where they are now while saving up for a down payment for when this settles back in a couple of years.

[ROCKMAN]

Newfie - The big problem with popping off 9 rounds in a crowded restaurant is that all 9 rounds are going to hit something: the bad guy, the wall...or another customer. Even rounds hitting the bad guy can be pass thru's that hit a customer. Most poorly trained will load autos with full metal jackets that can easily pass thru a couple of sheet rocked walls...very bad choice for home defense. Two well aimed 9 mill rounds with the right bullet design would have put the bad guy down quick. And if you didn't see the video the distance looked to be about 4' or so. You didn't need to be John Wayne to make that shot. LOL.

Adam - My small pouch can only handle the sub nose...no pockets on wheelchair. Two rounds center mass with a .38 with soft lead hollow points. At any range I would likely shoot almost instantly lethal. Been a while but I've been shot at...a lot. So, panicking wouldn't be a problem since I don't take it personal anymore. But at home it's a .45 Long Colt with 225-grain bullets having a muzzle velocity of 960 feet-per-second with 460 foot-pounds of energy. And carrying a very antipersonnel bullet. One round more than sufficient at 10'. Kicks like a mule but second shot recovery doesn't worry me for obvious reason.