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Re: What was Bill Gates thinking when he programmed Vista OS

Unread postby Laughs_Last » Fri 20 Jul 2007, 23:20:25

Wow, you really have a lot to say about MS.

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Re: What was Bill Gates thinking when he programmed Vista OS

Unread postby strider3700 » Sat 21 Jul 2007, 02:08:13

when vista was first announced it was supposed to have about a half dozen amazingly advanced technologies in it. The one that I remember was a database based filesystem. Anyways as time went on and it became obvious that MS had serious security issues they slowly started removing those technologies from the list. In the end they basically had to release an OS or risk losing a bunch of market share because it had been so long and OS X and linus where both looking damn nice compared to XP so they released vista which basically has a new security model and shiny interface. Oh and 6 or 8 versions just to piss everyone off. The next OS is supposed to have all of those cool features that where dumped included. I haven't gone to vista yet at home. I won't be moving the company there anytime soon. It's just not worth it at this point.
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Re: What was Bill Gates thinking when he programmed Vista OS

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sat 21 Jul 2007, 03:41:20

I am still using Win 98 SE and occasionally Win Me on my 1GHz/80GB Gateway with Pentium 3.
I found those sufficient for most of tasks and I can live without some add-ons present in XP/Vista.
I don't store any sensitive data on my hard drive so I am not bothered much if someone manage to brake in (I am using Panda firewall to lower that risk anyway).

For business accounting purpose I am using one of latest DOS versions and simple software, which run brilliant on that.
It is all done on old computer not connected to Internet, so there is nothing to worry about.

I am not going to upgrade.
I believe, that all the shit around will start to collapse timely enough to spare me that pain.
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Re: What was Bill Gates thinking when he programmed Vista OS

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Sat 21 Jul 2007, 03:54:59

I'd say get a mac.

I saw a nice eMac at the local goodwill for $200, may have been half price like the pillow I got today. Saw a nice "toilet seat" iBook for $50 today, screen's bad, reddish, if all it is is reddish, that won't keep you from doing what you need to do.

Anything OSX is running on BSD Unix. You can get these machines cheap and they last a long time.

If you're more techie, get into linux. Me, I just want the thing to work.
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Re: What was Bill Gates thinking when he programmed Vista OS

Unread postby Falconoffury » Sat 21 Jul 2007, 22:40:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'p')erhaps until 2014 when Microsoft Officially drops all support for XP


That happens November or December this year.

Vista is just XP with cancerous tumors hanging all over it. They need to start from scratch. I hope they do that with Vienna, so we can all forget Vista ever existed.

At my job we have two test computers running Vista Business. One of them loses its operating system every 1 or 2 weeks. I get the "operating system not found" message on boot, and I have to repair the installation with the DVD. This is windows ME all over again.

It's XP for me until Microsoft can get a clue.
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Re: What was Bill Gates thinking when he programmed Vista OS

Unread postby frankthetank » Sun 22 Jul 2007, 00:19:20

I'll stick with XP, but i think in the next couple weeks i'm going to dual boot Ubuntu or Kubuntu depending on if i want Gnome or KDE. I actually used a version of Linux many moons ago, but at the time i had one of those sweet winmodems and i couldn't get it to connect to the internet.

Never used/seen Vista. I ordered a computer for a guy and luckily was able to choose XP instead of Vista.

I first started out using Windows for Workgroups and then moved onto 95 (which i liked) then 98SE and then ME and then 2000/XP. I still get a frozen computer from time to time, but its not too bad. I haven't had to reinstall for a few months, which is all i care about. A person should back up files to DVD from time to time....which i don't! :)
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Re: What was Bill Gates thinking when he programmed Vista OS

Unread postby strider3700 » Sun 22 Jul 2007, 01:03:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'I')'ll stick with XP, but i think in the next couple weeks i'm going to dual boot Ubuntu or Kubuntu depending on if i want Gnome or KDE.


If you're an XP person then kubuntu with KDE is trivial to figure out for 95% of what you'll need. I told my wife the username and password and she was off and running without any training on kubuntu. Eventually she asked me where office was and I pointed her at open office said it's basically the same if she's not doing ultra complex stuff. She's been fine with the setup for about a year now.
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Re: What was Bill Gates thinking when he programmed Vista OS

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Sun 22 Jul 2007, 11:19:11

It could also be that Microsoft is flicking retarrrrded!
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Re: What was Bill Gates thinking when he programmed Vista OS

Unread postby frankthetank » Tue 24 Jul 2007, 21:44:37

Spent the whole day almost playing (not the fun type) with Kubuntu and then to Ubuntu. I will say they install very easily and everything works great. Only problem i have is with Ndiswrapper and trying to get a usb wifi card to work. Not fun! Getting use to the terminal and commands! Have lots to learn yet, however.

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Just to add, i think i'm going back to Kubuntu or the newest version of Ubuntu. Really liked using Kubuntu web browser, and liked the layout a lot more. Still have to figure out how to get my wireless car to work (tew-445)...
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Re: What was Bill Gates thinking when he programmed Vista OS

Unread postby strider3700 » Wed 25 Jul 2007, 01:47:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', ' ')Really liked using Kubuntu web browser, and liked the layout a lot more.


konqueror is fine but why not just install firefox and have identical to what you had under Windows?
using KDE on kubunto go to the "start menu" K menu
go to system and pick adept(package manager)
enter your root password
in the filter enter firefox and then click on the firefox entry that comes up.
pick install package and then commit the changes. A minute or two later depending on your connection it's done and will show up under the internet listing in the menu. Easy as pie.

Your wireless card may be difficult to get working. You've just hit the weakness of linux. If the vendor didn't share the info needed to work with the card its support may be shakey until it gets older. Even then it may require jumping through hoops to get it working. My tv capture card is a real pain to make work.
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Bill Gates plans to control hurricanes

Unread postby Ache » Sat 18 Jul 2009, 00:37:10

http://www.examiner.com/x-15540-New-Orl ... hurricanes

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')icrosoft founder, Bill Gates, has turned his attention and deep pockets to controlling hurricanes with a new invention.

Gates along with a team of co-inventors including climate scientist, Ken Caldeira of the Carnegie Institution of Washington, have submitted five U.S. Patent applications for a proposed device to slow hurricanes down by pumping cold, deep-ocean water in its path from barges.

If issued, the patents offer 18 years of legal rights to the idea for Gates and his co-inventors.

The patents describe a system that would place as many as 200 turbine engine barges in a path of a raging hurricane, and designed to then pump chilled water from its depth to the ocean’s surface negating the hurricane’s source of strength. The Vessels could be towed, dropped by planes or submerged in the ocean until needed.
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Re: Bill Gates plans to control hurricanes

Unread postby jbrovont » Sat 18 Jul 2009, 06:28:31

Warm water is denser than cool water, thus the pumping to exchange them will expend energy. In order to exchange enough water to alter surface temperatures enough to remove the energy that drives a hurricane, you'd have to expend roughly the same amount of energy to overcome the difference in buoyancy...unless the atmospheric conditions were cool enough you didn't need to...in which case they wouldn't support a hurricane anyway.

How much oil would we have to burn to equal the energy released during Katrina anyway? Or is the idea to deploy nuclear powered ships to an explosive hot zone for treacherous seas?

Fault me if I'm wrong here, please. Otherwise this seems like a contender for a complete waste of time. Why not just stop building where hurricanes are apt to make landfall? Seems like that would be a lot cheaper.
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Re: Bill Gates plans to control hurricanes

Unread postby Cloud9 » Sat 18 Jul 2009, 07:07:55

I thought hurricanes were nature’s heat exchange engines. If we learn to shut them down, what happens to the heat?
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Re: Bill Gates plans to control hurricanes

Unread postby Tanada » Sat 18 Jul 2009, 09:14:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jbrovont', 'W')arm water is denser than cool water, thus the pumping to exchange them will expend energy. In order to exchange enough water to alter surface temperatures enough to remove the energy that drives a hurricane, you'd have to expend roughly the same amount of energy to overcome the difference in buoyancy...unless the atmospheric conditions were cool enough you didn't need to...in which case they wouldn't support a hurricane anyway.

How much oil would we have to burn to equal the energy released during Katrina anyway? Or is the idea to deploy nuclear powered ships to an explosive hot zone for treacherous seas?

Fault me if I'm wrong here, please. Otherwise this seems like a contender for a complete waste of time. Why not just stop building where hurricanes are apt to make landfall? Seems like that would be a lot cheaper.


Actually you have that backwards, cold water is denser that is why it sinks to the bottom and stays there on its own.

To get a large volume of water to rise and mix with the surface pumping the cold water up and then spraying it out as droplets to fall into and mix with the surface waters is only one method. The system I prefer is to trail a long flexible pipe behind the barge/ship/sub and pump air down to at least 400 foot depth and out through a bubble array. As the air rises in millions of tiny bubbles they lift and stir the water at the same time, this creates a column of rising cold water and much mixing all the way through the column.

I have also seen a scheme with a wave driven system of vertical pipes that are neutrally buoyant, the pipes are 500 feet long and have flotation cells near the top to keep them vertical. You put a set of one way valves inside the pipe, then as the waves lift it up and down the cold deep water is forced through the valves at the bottom on the down stroke. Each wave cycle results in another pipe width of cold water being forced into the bottom then upward on each wave cycle until it spills out of the open top of the pipe where it mixes with the warm surface waters. A few tens of thousands of those all driven by waves and you will create a cold patch on the surface without using artificial energy to do so.
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Re: Bill Gates plans to control hurricanes

Unread postby Tanada » Sat 18 Jul 2009, 09:17:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'I') thought hurricanes were nature’s heat exchange engines. If we learn to shut them down, what happens to the heat?

If you are shutting it down by bringing cold deep water to the surface and mixing it with surface waters you are exchanging the heat without the Hurricane being involved. In essence what you are doing is heating the deep water by moving it too the surface, where a lot of what a Hurricane does is to evaporate the warm surface water, make it into clouds and drop it as cool rain droplets.
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Re: Bill Gates plans to control hurricanes

Unread postby Ferretlover » Sat 18 Jul 2009, 09:20:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ill Gates plans to control hurricanes.

Don't we all want to do this? :)
Being able to control hurricanes--now's There's something that will be constantly in use. Which brings me to my next thought: who is inventing the systems needed to develop hurricanes so that Bill & Co can be called in (and paid) to stop them?
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