[Ainan]

Like many others I used to believe human beings were mostly rational creatures, with a few quirks that made them act irrationaly at times. Then I moved to the City and realised it's the other way around.

Other than that I don't really have any other strong views, 'question everything' and all, you can't really prove anything as far as I can tell.

[Eli]

Threadbear it happened over time but there were many things that pushed me in that direction.

The war in Lebanon a few years ago was one such thing, and the other was discovering that Zionism was founded by atheists and was opposed by religious Jews.

[Grifter]

Its already been said really but I believed that right and left politics were opposite sides of a debate on how we should live.

I spent so long believing that it makes me angry to this day.

yeah good idea for a thread.

I also used to believe that trying to make the world a less unfair place was a productive use of time.

[Zeeea]

after a debate yesterday, gun owners first convinced me they needed their weapons, but later after continuing the conversation and finding how volitile their personalites are, Ive changed my mind and now think its wrong and that they are not responsible enough to know when to use their weapon ...

And I used to think promotions were a good thing ...until I got promoted ...

[Grifter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zeeea', '
')And I used to think promotions were a good thing ...until I got promoted ...

[bonehead]

I used to believe that gun ownership was a great evil.i couldn't see any real reason to own one and thought that anyone who did own one was a redneck.I don't feel this way anymore.

[jupiters_release]

I used to think climate change was the only thing that could stop civilization. I never knew how irreplaceable cheap fossil fuels were and how little of it was left. I realized it's impossible to truly be healthy when almost everyone else isn't. It was selfish to think the party and destruction would go on till the weather permitted.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'T')hreadbear it happened over time but there were many things that pushed me in that direction.

The war in Lebanon a few years ago was one such thing, and the other was discovering that Zionism was founded by atheists and was opposed by religious Jews.

[Eli]

No I don't want to see the destruction of the current State of Israel.

But I am a fatalist when it comes to the subject. All of Israel's neighbors hate them, and one day they will rise up and destroy Israel.
I also think that US support of Israel is nuts, I will never send my kids off to die to try and defend them.

" 16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
9And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. "

I think we are all in for a rough patch.

[Homesteader]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grifter', 'I')ts already been said really but I believed that right and left politics were opposite sides of a debate on how we should live.

I spent so long believing that it makes me angry to this day.

yeah good idea for a thread.

I also used to believe that trying to make the world a less unfair place was a productive use of time.

[lawnchair]

I at one point thought there was some level of stuff and comfort where people just would be happy and not struggling to get at more. Gene Roddenberry economics? I'm now quite sure that all but the rarest monks will seek more, More, MORE, until they explode.

[Eli]

Would you like one wayfar thin cookie?

[btu2012]

A long time ago I used to believe in cultural progress.

I now understand that "progress" in culture is just another name for "change".

[Jenab6]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'T')oo many to name but I used to think universities, religion (when I was really young), banks, politics, and all the other institutions of our world were legit. I used to believe in the US and the US political system was the best and could not be corrupted. I thought 911 was legit early on. Thought the global conspiracy once was laughable and inane. I used to think our civilization was simply too advanced to falter within my lifetime.

So what strong opinions did you once have that have turned out to be REALLY wrong?

[ClassicSpiderman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'S')o what strong opinions did you once have that have turned out to be REALLY wrong?

[desultorypawn]

I haven't changed my viewpoints, just become uncertain on a lot of things:

morals
social responsibility
the truth in or falsity of race/culture stereotypes
NWO or illuminati conspiracy theories

Biggest dilemma-

"If you can't run to save yourself then you deserve to be held"

if someone can't help them self than why is it another persons responsibility to help them...even if the weak person never had the ability to be educated, gain critical thinking skills, etc.

luckily some biology studying helps with dealing with these issues (even if they are conveniently simple (occam's razor can be sharp!))

Survival of the fittest
Causality (lack of free will)

So I haven't had any change in any specific opinions, but my entire world view has shifted to a very nihilistic and "detached" existence. I no longer question any sort of meaning or fulfillment in life, just have fun making things, doing things, building relationships, and hope for the best.

[wisconsin_cur]

I use to believe that we (as a species) were driven by our intellect and that people made decisions based upon their evaluation of the circumstances.

I now realize that we are psycho-somatic beings, driven by the sum total of our psychological and physical state, themselves influenced by both experiences, injuries, and healing.

Our ability to perceive reality can be influenced by many things. To improve an ability to perceive requires a significant amount of self-reflection and evaluation as well as a willingness to accept what we see within ourselves and the discipline to let go of what is not helpful.

Usually the pursuit of knowledge is a circle. People end up at the exact same place that they begin, falsely believing this to be progress.

At best our knowing is a spiral. The path is still a circle but still making progress.

[skiwi]

I thought life was all rosy and sweet
then I started my first day at school
and was wrapped on the knuckles
for writing with my left hand

My opinion of officialdom has been downhill since then

It was also one of the two times I can remember my Dad foaming at the mouth
and taking time off work to turn up to school the next day....I'm still left handed

[Ayame]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', '
')So what strong opinions did you once have that have turned out to be REALLY wrong?

[buzzard]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', '
')So what strong opinions did you once have that have turned out to be REALLY wrong?