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Re: Another Oil price Record

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Re: Another Record

Unread postby Zardoz » Thu 13 Sep 2007, 20:12:46

Certainly worth a posterity post:

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Re: Another Record

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Fri 14 Sep 2007, 05:16:14

I will honestly be genuinely surprised by 85 If we get there without some sort of catalyst. At least within the near term.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby Leanan » Fri 14 Sep 2007, 14:42:58

Oil Is Steady After Reaching a Record $80.36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')rude oil was little changed after rising to a record $80.36 a barrel in New York on concern that oil and fuel inventories will decline.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby Zardoz » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 13:33:20

Back over $80 again today:

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And look at gold...

EDIT: -

It just hit $80.50. New intra-day record.

Crude Oil Rises to Record $80.50 on Signs of Interest-Rate Cut

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')rude oil in New York rose to a record $80.50 a barrel in New York on signs that the Federal Reserve will lower interest rates at its meeting tomorrow to bolster the economy of the U.S.

"This is going to reassure folks about the economy and ease fears about a pullback in demand,'' said Rick Mueller, an analyst with Energy Security Analysis Inc. in Wakefield, Massachusetts. "This comes on top of the realization that OPEC's production increase isn't that large and the barrels won't be hitting the U.S. for months anyway.''

The Federal Reserve is forecast to cut interest rates to help prevent the housing recession from bringing down the rest of the economy. This is the fourth day that prices have risen to a record amid concern that demand will outpace supply.


They really are catching on, aren't they?

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$80.70
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is it a new oil price record?

Unread postby sirrom » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 15:12:21

on the front page it says thst oil has reached 80.39,is this a new record?

edit: now it is 80.52
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Re: is it a new oil price record?

Unread postby basil_hayden » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 15:14:51

I'm guessing the Another Record Thread isn't good enough for you....

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Re: Another Record

Unread postby sirrom » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 15:19:07

now it's $80.56!
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Re: is it a new oil price record?

Unread postby Bas » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 15:20:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sirrom', 'o')n the front page it says thst oil has reached 80.39,is this a new record?

edit: now it is 80.52


yes it is Sirrom.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby sirrom » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 15:23:11

it's gone up by another 2 cents now,what do you will think it will close the day at?
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby joewp » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 15:30:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')This is the fourth day that prices have risen to a record amid concern that demand will outpace supply.



Maybe I'm stupid, but I thought demand has been exceeding supply for a couple of years now, that's why we're not at $20/bbl anymore.

Oh, it looks like the close will be around $80.50, right around the highs of the day. That's quite bullish, as they say.

Edit: Make that $80.57
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby Zardoz » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 15:54:29

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Re: Another Record

Unread postby Leanan » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 17:45:06

Oil sets new record ahead of Fed meeting


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')il futures rose to new records and other energy futures also advanced Monday on expectations the Federal Reserve will cut the benchmark federal funds rate, a move the market expects will support the economy and ensure its thirst for oil and gasoline.

"If the economy's going to be OK, then oil prices are probably undervalued," said Phil Flynn, an analyst at Alaron Trading Corp. in Chicago.

Oil futures rose as high as $80.70 on Monday, a trading record. Oil prices have set several new records over $80 a barrel in recent days for a number of reasons, including perceptions that problems in the subprime mortgage industry would have a minor effect on the economy. The nine-session rally reversed August's downward trend, which was based in part on concerns that the subprime problems would spread, affecting the overall economy and curbing demand for petroleum products.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 17:59:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')il prices have set several new records over $80 a barrel in recent days for a number of reasons, including perceptions that problems in the subprime mortgage industry would have a minor effect on the economy.


Is that the consensus? Really? I would think the increases are due in part to the devaluing dollar, in which the anticipation of a rate cut increasing the price of oil (and everything else, for that matter) makes a lot of sense. But, I'm not an economist, so...

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Re: Another Record

Unread postby DantesPeak » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 18:07:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')This is the fourth day that prices have risen to a record amid concern that demand will outpace supply.



Maybe I'm stupid, but I thought demand has been exceeding supply for a couple of years now, that's why we're not at $20/bbl anymore.


The IEA has world inventories depleting 500,000 bpd between June 2006 and June 2007, on a quarterly basis. So we are more than a year past the switchover point.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby Twilight » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 18:30:05

If the Fed decides to reduce the purchasing power of the dollar, we all know which way oil is heading. Not so bad if you're a Eurozone customer, though.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby joewp » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 19:48:12

Over $81 right now in after hours trading.

$81.05 to be exact.

It hit $81.18 a little while ago.

That's another record, just in case you're counting. 8)
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby Eli » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 20:19:51

This all bs oil should be 45 dollars a barrel actually it should be 25 dollars a barrel, Daniel Yergin said so.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby Zardoz » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 20:28:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', 'I')t hit $81.18 a little while ago.

That's another record, just in case you're counting.

Oh, we are.

If this is all about worries concerning supply, especially this winter, why aren't the contracts for the next few months higher?

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Re: Another Record

Unread postby Starvid » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 22:19:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'T')his all bs oil should be 45 dollars a barrel actually it should be 25 dollars a barrel, Daniel Yergin said so.


Thanks to jdmartin for this one...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ugust 20, 2004

"The economy is near its tipping point," Stephen S. Roach, chief economist for Morgan Stanley, said yesterday. He said the nation would likely fall back into recession if oil prices hover near $50 a barrel for three to six months. Washington Post

Oh yeah? :P

Let's face it, no one has any idea what oil price the economy can take without slowing down. That's why OPEC is slowly pushing up the price, to find the maximum price they can have without destroying their consumers ability to buy oil.
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Re: Another Record

Unread postby RdSnt » Mon 17 Sep 2007, 23:50:12

The rapid inflation of the priniciple global currencies has a lot to do with the rise in oil prices. If you look at the mechanics of supply, very little has changed to justify the rate increases.
But if you look at the rate at which various countries are inflating their money supplies, it is leading to a good portion of the inflationary push.
There is also the very bad economic news, and credit crisis that is tearing through global markets. Yet, most of that news should actually be pushing oil prices down.
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