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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby mcgowanjm » Fri 07 May 2010, 11:05:17

10AM Central. I'm turning on the TV. Wonder if anyone will be mentioning the dying GOM in the first 4 minutes.

OK three min in. CNN led with teaser of BP Hayward on the hot seat[That's it](BWAHAHAHAHA- Throw him on Chandeleur
Is and swim back to shore. Maybe a dying dolphin will flail
him on the way;}

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ast year, CEO Hayward boasted that, despite increased oil production in exotic deep waters, he had cut BP's costs by an extra one billion dollars a year. Now we know how he did it.

As chance would have it, I was meeting last week with Louisiana lawyer Daniel Becnel Jr. when word came in of the platform explosion. Daniel represents oil workers on those platforms; now, he'll represent their bereaved families. The Coast Guard called him. They had found the emergency evacuation capsule floating in the sea and were afraid to open it and disturb the cooked bodies.

I wonder if BP painted the capsule green, like they paint their gas stations.

Becnel, yesterday by phone from his office from the town of Reserve, Louisiana, said the spill response crews were told they weren't needed because the company had already sealed the well. Like everything else from BP mouthpieces, it was a lie.
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby mcgowanjm » Fri 07 May 2010, 11:15:17

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/galler ... .php?img=1

The 'Bruckheimer' Inferno pics CNN should be showing as Hayward's on their 'hot seat.'

Bet it's like that show with Carlson/Begala that Jon Stewart demolished.

And BTW, the only place TV I'm getting news now. The Comedy Channel with Stewart and Colbert Report.

That's not funny. That's sick. Like BP. :evil:
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby mcgowanjm » Fri 07 May 2010, 11:21:04

And here it is. Sue BP til they die. Hopefully before
the GOM. $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his just in: Becnel tells me that one of the platform workers has informed him that the BP well was apparently deeper than the 18,000 feet depth reported. BP failed to communicate that additional depth to Halliburton crews, who, therefore, poured in too small a cement cap for the additional pressure caused by the extra depth. So, it blew.
(And just a quick reminder, the US Navy
can blow this well in at anytime-ROV's w/Shaped Charges, Manned subs conventional explosive,
DU tipped, and last before the GOM goes sterile,
nukes-but again we won't have to do that because we can blow this thing in with less;}:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ussia to send nuclear aircraft carrier killer to Caribbean Sea
Sep 9, 2008 ... Russia to send nuclear aircraft carrier killer to Caribbean Sea. ... 10 torpedo bays 16 Yakhont super-sonic aircraft carrier-sinking ...
iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/174693
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby mcgowanjm » Fri 07 May 2010, 11:23:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hy didn't Halliburton check? "Gross negligence on everyone's part," said Becnel. Negligence driven by penny-pinching, bottom-line squeezing. BP says its worker is lying. Someone's lying here, man on the platform or the company that has practiced prevarication from Alaska to Louisiana.


But these folks who really are at war with the planet
never seem to have a problem ID'ing which bank acct
the check is deposited into. :twisted: :twisted: 8O 8O 8)
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby Maddog78 » Fri 07 May 2010, 13:17:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', 'J')ust look at All the info TV/Media have about
zero% chance of covering as the GOM
dies before our eyes.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')But shear rams have a weakness. They are not engineered to cut through tool joints, the knuckles where sections of the drill pipe are connected every 30 feet. That means that about 10 percent of a pipe is made up of tool joints that a shear ram isn't strong enough to penetrate, said Per Holand, a drilling expert from Norway who has advised the MMS.

"If they do not know the exact location of the tool joint, they would normally close a pipe ram and lower the drillpipe until it stops against the pipe ram to ensure that the shear blind ram does not hit a tool joint," Holand said. "This may of course be difficult if you have a crisis on the rig."

The removal of the mud could have limited the amount of time the crew had to work through the process Holand described.

The shear ram is activated by a button on a control panel on the drill ship. An MMS safety alert in 2000 urged drill operators on the Outer Continental Shelf to have a backup method for activating the blowout preventer.

Blowout preventer backup not required


Any of you BigOil folks following this?
You're awful quiet over there in Houston.



For crying out loud I talked about all of this in several posts, removing the mud and especially the tool joint possibly being in the way of the shear ram.
It's clear that most people don't even understand what they are reading in my posts because they have no technical background in offshore drilling.
It's getting real tiresome repeating myself over and over though, only to be ridiculed on it or asked to repeat the exact same post two days later because something was spotted on a blog.

In fact, I'm done.
Go to your tinfoil bloggers for advice, they know everything about offshore drilling now they've had two weeks experience blogging on it.

Later.
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby Maddog78 » Fri 07 May 2010, 13:22:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')declared to be almost 'brain dead'. Nuke it.



Go ahead, nuke it.
Crazy rednecks would love it.
Yeehaw, she blew up real good!!!!!
Wouldn't do a damn thing but it would look great on the news.
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby rockdoc123 » Fri 07 May 2010, 14:15:54

The amazing thing here is that the same individuals who are wringing their hands over oil contamination of the ocean are the ones extolling the virtues of a nuclear explosion. So do you think massive amounts of radioactive materials released in the ocean is going to be better for sea life than droplets of bitumen falling to the sea floor? Is the oil spill lapping up into the area around the LOOP better or worse than the loop getting hit by a tsunamis which would almost certainly form as a result of an underwater nuclear explosion?
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby shortonsense » Fri 07 May 2010, 14:21:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', '
')For crying out loud I talked about all of this in several posts, removing the mud and especially the tool joint possibly being in the way of the shear ram.
It's clear that most people don't even understand what they are reading in my posts because they have no technical background in offshore drilling.


Oh, I don't think thats much of a surprise anymore, is it? You could draw a diagram, write a textbook, train them for a week in what it means and...well...."none are so blind as those who will not see".

To true believers, reality is irrelevant.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('maddog', '
')It's getting real tiresome repeating myself over and over though, only to be ridiculed on it or asked to repeat the exact same post two days later because something was spotted on a blog.


No one ever said that fighting the good fight using the truth, reality, historical facts, vast personal experience directly applicable to the topic at hand and a fully functioning cranium would be easy against the legions of darkness.

At the end of the day, one can only take consolation in the fact that those who are actually searching for insight on the topic can see the breadtrail you leave behind. More than that....go forth and find natural gas my son, you do more service to the debate by disproving the Hubbertian profile for NG in the US at every turn than any amount of posting might accomplish.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('maddog78', '
')In fact, I'm done.
Go to your tinfoil bloggers for advice, they know everything about offshore drilling now they've had two weeks experience blogging on it.

Later.


NO! DO NOT FLEE!! Though their numbers are legion, their poorly formed conjecture and speculation shall break on our bulwarks like glass on steel!
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby mcgowanjm » Sat 08 May 2010, 08:47:14

You done, MD?

Good. See ya. Your finest have destroyed the GOM and it's time for you to go.

Butm you're EXACTLY right. It IS Time for you and yours to go.

Take BP and BigOil with you. Cause w/o you and yours
we wouldn;t be worried about the GOM dying today.

The US NAVY should take over today.

ALL OIL in the GOM under their purview.

Stop that well no matter what it takes. What it costs.

Today.
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby mcgowanjm » Sat 08 May 2010, 08:50:51

And I'm wondering what you BigOil Apologists are doing here anyway.

This is PO, not RigZone.

That your bosses can earn $1/2 billion dollars.
for what.

This is the Redneck Riviera. Not Nigeria, E Timor,
Iraq, the Persian Gulf.

You can't destroy us and walk away.

Nationalize ALL oil companies today.
All profits go to restoring the GOM that you have killed.

And for what.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hile the responsibility for America’s abject dependence on oil is pervasive, including British Petroleum and the Cheneys and the Rockefellers and the US Chamber of Commerce and the plastics industry and agribusiness and the automakers and the highway lobby and little me driving fifteen miles in my compact car to go bird watching, it is as unevenly apportioned as are the resulting profits and casualties.

Vastly outnumbering the killed and injured workers, whose loss alone is infinitely grievous, the majority of the victims of this dependency—the wildlife, the landscapes, and the future generations of human beings—are voiceless. Bereft of clout, their claims are faint as compared to the din of PR, the white noise of the status quo, and our general human aversion to sacrifice and inability to defer gratification.

As with any addiction, though, continued use destroys self-esteem and deepens the plight.


See you sorry SOB's in Hell.

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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby mcgowanjm » Sat 08 May 2010, 08:56:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')declared to be almost 'brain dead'. Nuke it.



Go ahead, nuke it.
Crazy rednecks would love it.
Yeehaw, she blew up real good!!!!!
Wouldn't do a damn thing but it would look great on the news.



And like I said, MD, you take what I said out of context.
And you have REFUSED to answer my shaped charge/
blowing in the well with munitions short of nukes.

But we're waaay past obfuscations here.
The GOM is being destroyed by the day.
And Your expertise in being oh so clever and the rest of us oh so dumb is JUST LIKE the apologists
for NUCLEAR after Chernobyl.

BANKRUPT. If this is all your finest can do we don;t want any part of it.

The FACT. The FACT that us Dirty Fuckin' Hippies are reduced to calling for nuclear should be ringing ALA
RM BELLS world wide.

This is AMERICA's CHERNOBYL and the fact that
the US/BigOilMedia is doing everything to cover it
up makes the Soviets look good.
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby mcgowanjm » Sat 08 May 2010, 08:59:16

And this is so sadly beautiful:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hile the responsibility for America’s abject dependence on oil is pervasive, including British Petroleum and the Cheneys and the Rockefellers and the US Chamber of Commerce and the plastics industry and agribusiness and the automakers and the highway lobby and little me driving fifteen miles in my compact car to go bird watching, it is as unevenly apportioned as are the resulting profits and casualties.

Vastly outnumbering the killed and injured workers, whose loss alone is infinitely grievous, the majority of the victims of this dependency—the wildlife, the landscapes, and the future generations of human beings—are voiceless. Bereft of clout, their claims are faint as compared to the din of PR, the white noise of the status quo, and our general human aversion to sacrifice and inability to defer gratification.

As with any addiction, though, continued use destroys self-esteem and deepens the plight.


Insane. Just insane.
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby mcgowanjm » Sat 08 May 2010, 10:44:32

From NOLA blog:

try freezing oil
By wrcooley
May 07, 2010, 7:40PM

Freeze the oil,

if not a controlled explosion would have killed the well, there is 11,000 of overburden to kill the well

the only reason they are holding off is to save money, i have drilled 600 wells as a geologist but i am not a dirller

they are planning to kill it Hydraulically (100 year old technology) but are going to wait 2 weeks .....figure that one out?

Wayne Cooley

Petroleum Geologist
Engineering Gelogist
Geohydrologist
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby mcgowanjm » Sat 08 May 2010, 15:46:45

Let me be plain here.

This is the most Strategic Area of the United States of America.

And that $15 billion price tag being placed on it is BS.

This is the most diverse ecosystem in the United States.

There may be 20 like it in the world. I'm being conservative.

Without these 20 civilization as we know it cannot survive.
So 20 x $15 billion = $3 trillion. Like $3 trillion can re create these 20. Again. That's BS(And I note how I'm refraining from cussing here in this most obscene/insane situation the US has ever faced;}

This is now a National Security issue. The US Navy is
in charge whether they admit it or not. Along with
consensus views of Woods Hole. Scripps, U of Miami,
Florida St, Alabama, Ole Miss, and LSU. Note I pointedly left out BigOil.

When these folks decide the GOM from NO to Key West
is no longer viable based on oil flow the US Navy(and finally the US Citizen gerts a payback for all the Trillions
we've given them) must blow in this hole.

First the Gulf Coast and then the US will collapse if this
oil blow out is not stopped in X (see above for details) hours.

It really is that simple.

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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby mcgowanjm » Sat 08 May 2010, 15:49:31

One more point. We get to find out about all of
those CT's on whether we have a HAARPS/Earthquake
machine. Or any other exotic SciFi devices.

:twisted: :evil: 8O 8)

This is the life and death of the GOM and then the US.

Within hours.
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby mcgowanjm » Sat 08 May 2010, 19:09:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ay 8, 2010

The effort to place a containment dome over a gushing wellhead was dealt a setback when a large volume of hydrates — crystals formed when gas combines with water — accumulated inside of the vessel, BP’s chief operating officer said Saturday.
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby shortonsense » Sat 08 May 2010, 19:44:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mcgowanjm', 'O')ne more point. We get to find out about all of
those CT's on whether we have a HAARPS/Earthquake
machine. Or any other exotic SciFi devices.

:twisted: :evil: 8O 8)

This is the life and death of the GOM and then the US.

Within hours.


How many, would you say? 10? 20?
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby bromius » Sun 09 May 2010, 02:46:19

This is just an anecdotal report from me, but I've seen this story covered in several major newspapers as well as through multiple mainstream news sites. I don't think TPTB are trying to cover this up.

There have been bad oil spills in the GOM before. This is a good example: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v290/n5803/abs/290235a0.html. The present situation sounds similar, based on what I can discern with my admittedly limited knowledge.

I think such events are terrible and should be avoided. I also think that the various parties involved here should help pay for cleanup/damages. Its a risk they took when deciding to proceed with the project.
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby mcgowanjm » Sun 09 May 2010, 08:58:00

^
^
I___ONE: No one reads a paper anymore.

TWO: Everyone gets their news from TV.

THREE: For the rest, if no one's talking about it in social circles, no one's getting the news.

No one's talking about this. Only MSNBC mentioned
EPIC FAIL this AM of the Condom/Coffer.

I've followed Current Events since JFK.

People/Media should be dealing with this the way they dealt with 9/11.

Nothing compared to that. Nothing.

And BTW, If I wanted to design the ULTIMATE
5th Gen Warfare KILL SHOT on the United States of America, I'd do this:

On a rig drilling 5 000 ft below the surface of the Most Strategic Area in the US, but still within 100 miles
of the most strategic Port/River Mouth,

I'd tell Halliburton that I was drilling 18 000 ft
and then drill 25 000 ft.

It would be perfect.
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Re: Media Blackout

Unread postby mcgowanjm » Sun 09 May 2010, 09:00:45

HERE. Let me give you the NEWS that the Media
is remaining SILENT on(and of course, Replacing the TRUTH with SILENCE is EVIL).

Ask the Soviets-they know all about it. On with the NEWS!:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Below is a brief summary of multiple disasters that you should expect:

Water Quality

The quality of seawater in the Gulf of Mexico would deteriorate rapidly. It would become the most polluted water body in the world in a very short time. The Gulf would become a dead zone, permanently.

Food Production

Most of the marine creatures in the Gulf of Mexico will perish. Any species that might evade death, would be too contaminated for human or animal consumption.

Air Quality

The air quality in the region would worsen dramatically, turning the Gulf states into one of the most polluted regions in the world.

Temperatures

The average temperatures in the region would rise rapidly by 3ºC to as much as 8ºC depending on a number of additional factors.

Life Expectancy

Many people would perish as a result of the pollution caused by the oil leak. Many babies would be born with severe respiratory depression or other serious deformities.

Regional Collapse

Collapse of the Gulf states will begin, as most of the population move away from the Gulf heading in all directions. Civil conflict would erupt.

Collapse of the U.S., Canada and Mexico

The collapse of Gulf states, and other areas on the Atlantic and Pacific coasts, would result in large numbers of people moving north and into Canada, with others moving southwest and into Mexico. The next phase in the regional collapse of NAFTA countries, an irreversible downward spiral, would follow.

The Time Scale

Your world could disappear as fast as a flash of lightning!

Recent News Releases:

Tar balls found on Dauphin Island beach.
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