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Ladies' night not all right, state says

Unread postby mattduke » Fri 11 Jun 2010, 21:12:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t's a bastion of bar culture: "Ladies' Night," staged to attract female customers by cutting their drink prices and cover charges.

It's also illegal gender discrimination, according to the Minnesota Department of Human Rights.

The department charged this week that by having ladies' nights, five Twin Cities establishments denied men the right to "full and equal enjoyment" of their businesses.

"Gender-based pricing violates the [state] Human Rights Act," Commissioner James Kirkpatrick said in a statement. But even though this marks at least the second time in 16 years that the department has cracked down on the practice, it apparently has continued because bar owners aren't sure it's illegal, and enforcement clearly has been spotty.

http://www.startribune.com/local/961083 ... UUycaEacyU
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Re: Ladies' night not all right, state says

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Fri 11 Jun 2010, 23:49:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'A')re we supposed to be outraged? Let's face it, times have changed -- women now outnumber men as far as employment and higher education. Earning power is clearly making a shift to the feminine gender. I think the free drinks thing is a relic from a time when women either did not work or were paid very little -- that's just not the case anymore.

Unfortunately most of women formal work is of value added type, eg we can live without it.
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Re: Ladies' night not all right, state says

Unread postby Sixstrings » Sat 12 Jun 2010, 02:37:12

Are we supposed to be outraged? Let's face it, times have changed -- women now outnumber men as far as employment and higher education. Earning power is clearly making a shift to the feminine gender. I think the free drinks thing is a relic from a time when women either did not work or were paid very little -- that's just not the case anymore.
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Re: Ladies' night not all right, state says

Unread postby mattduke » Sat 12 Jun 2010, 03:43:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'A')re we supposed to be outraged? Let's face it, times have changed -- women now outnumber men as far as employment and higher education. Earning power is clearly making a shift to the feminine gender. I think the free drinks thing is a relic from a time when women either did not work or were paid very little -- that's just not the case anymore.

Yes, you should be outraged by the encroachment of bureaucrats upon your life. There is nothing wrong with offering a discount for ladies to come visit your bar. And it's not the government's business if you choose to do it. Ladies night is not about economics. It's about the asymmetry of human sexuality.
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Re: Ladies' night not all right, state says

Unread postby dinopello » Sat 12 Jun 2010, 04:38:21

When I was poor, in college eating Raman noodles I used to be upset that bars charged extra for me to drink just because I was a male. Now that I can afford it though, I do see the benefit of subsidizing drinks for the ladies.

Oh what a night!

What do gay bars do ?

Seems like they might want to charge extra for other classes of people too
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Unread postby Sixstrings » Sat 12 Jun 2010, 16:12:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'Y')es, you should be outraged by the encroachment of bureaucrats upon your life. There is nothing wrong with offering a discount for ladies to come visit your bar. And it's not the government's business if you choose to do it.


Yeah I agree it is a stupid thing for local government to get involved in. I just wanted to point out that the income gap between the sexes has radically changed over the years (again, latest figures are more women employed than men, and more educated women than men).

But yeah you're right, government should stay out of it. I don't go to bars anymore, but now that I think of it I never hear ads on the radio for "ladies night." The ads I hear are drink specials that anyone can show up for.
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Re: Ladies' night not all right, state says

Unread postby pup55 » Mon 14 Jun 2010, 15:33:48

Let me get this straight....

Our financial system is a cardboard cutout. Trillions of dollars are being fabricated out of midair in order in the hope that people will forget about the events of the last two years....

Our national real estate market is a complete catastrophe, is it 1 in 10 homes that are foreclosed, empty, nearly empty or in one of those situations?

Our national unemployment rate is something on the order of 25% if you count long-term unemployed, underemployed, people working three part time jobs, or a lot of 50 year old men who have given up because no one will hire them.

Many of our states, including our largest, are functionally broke. Teachers and cops are being laid off across most of the country because our so-called leaders lack the courage to go to the people and ask for more money.

Two of our three largest buildings, and one of our major cities that were destroyed in the last 10 years are still not rebuilt. Another, Detroit, is being deliberately depopulated.

We're completely unable to defend our southern border.

An environmental disaster is unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico which threatens to be unprecedented in its scope and severity, at great economic and social impact.

Two of our three major producers of automobiles are broke.

We have no more political process other than a contest to see who can run the most aggravating TV ads, and which candidate can accuse the other of having the sleaziest affair.

The infant mortality rate in our nation's capital is twice as high as it is in Havana.

We're bogged down in two endless and probably illegal wars, 12 time zones away from home, fighting people who hate us so much that 17 year old girls are blowing themselves up to take as many of us with them as possible....so that they think they will get to heaven faster.

We are literally confiscating tubes of toothpaste from 85 year old ladies at our nation's airports, but not inspecting incoming shipping containers for stinger missiles...

And yet, our legal system is involved with BS like whether or not a chick can or should get a discounted drink in a bar?

Some days you would just like to throw up.
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Re: Ladies' night not all right, state says

Unread postby mattduke » Mon 14 Jun 2010, 17:46:26

All part of the same problem pup: government overreach.
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Re: Ladies' night not all right, state says

Unread postby pup55 » Mon 14 Jun 2010, 20:11:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'g')overnment overreach


Oh, well I suppose you could call it overreach, but what you're talking about is a government that cannot competently do its various mandated functions, namely establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and ensure the blessings of liberty on ourselves and our posterity, but instead spends a lot of time not allowing chicks to get cheap drinks...

Too many lawyers.
Lack of strong societal role models
Lack of a sense of community and/or shared experiences and sacrifices
People being jerks and/or selfish
No sense of fun.

Plenty of blame to go around.
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