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Are Peak Oilers technophobes?

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Re: Are Peak Oilers technophobes?

Unread postby Sixstrings » Tue 30 Mar 2010, 23:31:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', 'U')h, those were jokes. I thought Ludi's nanobot bee comment was frickin' hilarious. No sense of humor? I've heard Steve Jobs is coming out with iHumor, so you can probably purchase it soon.


I realize they were jokes. I laugh at most of the jokes on here, but just don't find anything funny about nanobots. As long as nanobots do some people some good one day (medical treatments), then I think they're pretty cool.

But yeah, I realize it was a joke and not as snarky as ripping on Steve Jobs for being gaunt (he's a cancer survivor you know, so yeah it's just hilarious how thin he is).

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')obody is being anti-technology here, we're simply dismissing some of the more fanciful imaginings of techno-utopians.


So if I foresee technology advancing, that makes me a techno-utopian? If anything, think a lot more about the problems of future tech than the benefits. As for fanciful, do you think Orwell's "1984" was fanciful? How about Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World," do you see any similarities between the drug in that novel (soma) and today's prozac, paxil, zoloft, etc.etc.? Every time psychologists discover a new personality disorder, big pharma develops a new drug to cure it. We no longer have kids who'd rather be playing than studying, we have little people suffering from "ADHD."

But anyhow, I don't want a flame war with you Loki, we actually agree on things more than we disagree. I tend to see issues form all sides, so sometimes I run into the problem of arguing with everybody. :lol:
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Re: Are Peak Oilers technophobes?

Unread postby WildRose » Wed 31 Mar 2010, 10:11:17

As opposed to being technocrats?

http://en.technocracynet.eu/
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Re: Are Peak Oilers technophobes?

Unread postby Ludi » Thu 01 Apr 2010, 18:52:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', ' ')do you see any similarities between the drug in that novel (soma) and today's prozac, paxil, zoloft, etc.etc.



Wow, they've never worked that way for me! I can still get worried about stuff. Not worried enough, I guess! I should be ready to shoot myself every second if I were as worried as some other folks on this board. 8O

<<<<< dependent on modern technology, but still makes fun of it
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Re: Are Peak Oilers technophobes?

Unread postby Ludi » Thu 01 Apr 2010, 18:59:59

Incidentally, who has invented the Nano-bee?

So I can pay homage to him. [smilie=adora.gif]
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Re: Are Peak Oilers technophobes?

Unread postby firestarter » Thu 01 Apr 2010, 20:37:26

Actually I think technophilia is by far the more troubling condition facing mankind

It really is an infantile disorder:

http://www.primitivism.com/technophilia.htm
Civilization: the biosphere's skin disease
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Re: Are Peak Oilers technophobes?

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Thu 01 Apr 2010, 20:55:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')Not all technology is equally enjoyable, though. I'm not convinced it's a bad idea to be afraid of some of it.

Ludi, I think you have a good point here. I would use the word cautious, instead of afraid, as far as technology. It is the consequences of technology we use carelessly in pursuit of greed and rapid growth (at seemingly ANY cost) that makes me very afraid.

Take GM foods. Early in the debate, there were rational concerns about potential environmental consquences, etc. My thought was to be CAUTIOUS, to investigate first, to use science to consider what safeguards should be used. But no, fast growth and big profit advocates just shrilly call anyone who wants to be careful a nutjob as this might delay a dollar in profit somewhere.

To me, the whole AGW debate is another example. But no, pausing to learn or develop better science or technologies to LEARN HOW TO INTELLIGENTLY deal with the issues (or not) would hamper global growth in the short term, and we can't have THAT.

And so it goes.
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Re: Are Peak Oilers technophobes?

Unread postby Ludi » Thu 01 Apr 2010, 21:20:43

I think it's ok to be afraid of an atomic bomb and similar technology, but you can be "cautious" about them if you prefer. :)
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Re: Are Peak Oilers technophobes?

Unread postby hillsidedigger » Tue 06 Apr 2010, 22:17:26

There's nothing to fear about appropriate technology but then there's not much money in it either so the advertizers spend billions to convince people to purchase and use things they don't need.
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Re: Are Peak Oilers technophobes?

Unread postby Homesteader » Wed 07 Apr 2010, 04:35:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hillsidedigger', 'T')here's nothing to fear about appropriate technology but then there's not much money in it either so the advertizers spend billions to convince people to purchase and use things they don't need.


What he said. +1

If the money in ipods etc. . . was put into light rail, solar energy collectors etc. . . we would be getting somewhere other than down the cr*pper.
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