$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', 'C')redit card still works. My heat is still on. Market shelves still stocked. The neighborhood is still save. Plane travel is available at reasonable costs. Gasoline available. Internet is up, electricity is available. Phone works. Ambulance still coming when needed. Roads are plowed. Welfare is still paid. Immigrants and refugees are arriving as always. Police out there radaring as always.
Where is this collapse? Wasn't it supposed to be here by now, according to old predictions? Or do we postpone till Christmas 2010?
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so where is this peak oil?
Re: so where is this peak oil?
by keepitlow » Tue 12 Jan 2010, 21:42:34
Seems to be many trends chipping away at our very survival before the SHTF comes knocking at our door. So even if none of our SHTF scenarios come to fruition, living life itself can be a survival feat nowadays.
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Re: so where is this peak oil?
by Revi » Tue 12 Jan 2010, 21:49:16
Only 25% of the third class passengers lived through the Titanic disaster.
I think that will be the ratio for us too.
The third class passengers are already in trouble.
If you look around you can see the signs already.
Peak oil is here. It is in the price of living for people on the bottom, but it has taken away any cushion that middle class people used to have also.
$3 heating oil is way too expensive for a lot of people around here.
I think that will be the ratio for us too.
The third class passengers are already in trouble.
If you look around you can see the signs already.
Peak oil is here. It is in the price of living for people on the bottom, but it has taken away any cushion that middle class people used to have also.
$3 heating oil is way too expensive for a lot of people around here.
Deep in the mud and slime of things, even there, something sings.
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Re: so where is this peak oil?
by shortonsense » Tue 12 Jan 2010, 23:28:39
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', '
')Peak oil is here. It is in the price of living for people on the bottom, but it has taken away any cushion that middle class people used to have also.
$3 heating oil is way too expensive for a lot of people around here.
')Peak oil is here. It is in the price of living for people on the bottom, but it has taken away any cushion that middle class people used to have also.
$3 heating oil is way too expensive for a lot of people around here.
Maybe New Englanders in general should be heavily encouraging the development of New Yorks natural gas? Certainly its better for the environment, local supply, its certainly cheaper by about 60% over the same energy content of heating oil.
See any large scale shifts towards this obvious solution? Certainly it will happen as the devastating peak oil decline kicks in some year/time/decade, no reason people can't get started early though, and those still using heating oil for heat must be prime candidates for this obvious conversion.
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Re: so where is this peak oil?
by Ludi » Wed 13 Jan 2010, 10:57:10
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonsense', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', '
')Peak oil is here. It is in the price of living for people on the bottom, but it has taken away any cushion that middle class people used to have also.
$3 heating oil is way too expensive for a lot of people around here.
')Peak oil is here. It is in the price of living for people on the bottom, but it has taken away any cushion that middle class people used to have also.
$3 heating oil is way too expensive for a lot of people around here.
Maybe New Englanders in general should be heavily encouraging the development of New Yorks natural gas?
How would the people Revi is talking about do that? How would the poor of Maine "heavily encourage" the development of natural gas in another state?
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