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So is China communist or not ?
The Party is in ABSOLUTE control ,
they use capitalism but are totally Marxist ,
Marx wasn't very clear on state structures
spend some time checking out this site , it's enlightening and fun
it would make the reader better informed than thousands of pontificating journalists
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/
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In defense of Karl Marx
Re: In defense of Karl Marx
by sparky » Wed 09 Dec 2009, 17:02:14
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Re: In defense of Karl Marx
by rangerone314 » Wed 09 Dec 2009, 17:20:10
I like Karl Marx. He makes me laugh more than Harpo and Groucho.
An ideology is by definition not a search for TRUTH-but a search for PROOF that its point of view is right
Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take
You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown
Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
Equals barter and negotiate-people with power just take
You cant defend freedom by eliminating it-unknown
Our elected reps should wear sponsor patches on their suits so we know who they represent-like Nascar-Roy
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Re: In defense of Karl Marx
by mattduke » Wed 09 Dec 2009, 20:52:41
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'T')oilet paper is scarce, for sure, but last time I was there I picked up a nasty internal bug most likely in the water and had no trouble getting back to perfect health. Free.
Oh, and although aspirin may or not be available (never touch the stuff) students won't need any because education is free. No more headaches stressing about how to finance their medical school.
Oh, and although aspirin may or not be available (never touch the stuff) students won't need any because education is free. No more headaches stressing about how to finance their medical school.
Everyone in Cuba wants communism to end.
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Re: In defense of Karl Marx
by sparky » Fri 11 Dec 2009, 03:56:47
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When Marx wrote his " Kapital " people worked all their live for food and rags
twelve hours a day six days a week ,no
when H.G, Wells visited the place he said
" I though Chicago is a pocket version of Hell , now I believe Hell is a pocket version of Chicago "
the rich citizen of the city had a fund raiser to buy light artillery for the police to keep order
Slavery was rife in New York garment district , new immigrants would be fooled then locked up in sweatshops to work to be fed or else to be beaten and starved
Prince Albert consort of Victoria had a study of the living condition in the poor district of London made
, it pulled no punches and created a scandal
in the steel mills of Carnegie , thousands of people were maimed and killed every years
those who objected were killed by the Pinkerton goons
children were used preferably for dangerous work in confined space
miners would cough their lungs by age thirty
if old or maimed , you would simply starve or beg
Yep Marx was a bad man when he wrote ,
" workers arise , you have only your chains to loose "
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When Marx wrote his " Kapital " people worked all their live for food and rags
twelve hours a day six days a week ,no
when H.G, Wells visited the place he said
" I though Chicago is a pocket version of Hell , now I believe Hell is a pocket version of Chicago "
the rich citizen of the city had a fund raiser to buy light artillery for the police to keep order
Slavery was rife in New York garment district , new immigrants would be fooled then locked up in sweatshops to work to be fed or else to be beaten and starved
Prince Albert consort of Victoria had a study of the living condition in the poor district of London made
, it pulled no punches and created a scandal
in the steel mills of Carnegie , thousands of people were maimed and killed every years
those who objected were killed by the Pinkerton goons
children were used preferably for dangerous work in confined space
miners would cough their lungs by age thirty
if old or maimed , you would simply starve or beg
Yep Marx was a bad man when he wrote ,
" workers arise , you have only your chains to loose "
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Re: In defense of Karl Marx
by Dukkha » Fri 11 Dec 2009, 07:12:36
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n the United Kingdom, in the treatment of chronic kidney failure, those who are 55 years old are refused treatment at 35 percent of dialysis centers. Forty-five percent of 65-year-old patients at the centers are denied treatment, while patients 75 or older rarely receive any medical attention at these centers.
I had a quick look for that - unsourced - statistic. The Heritage Foundation (nice) preface it with "In 1978..." I would say "nice try". But it's not, so I won't.
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Re: In defense of Karl Marx
by Dukkha » Fri 11 Dec 2009, 07:13:50
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sparky', 't')hey use capitalism but are totally Marxist ,
What kind of world would you have to inhabit for that sentence to make any sense at all?
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Re: In defense of Karl Marx
by evilgenius » Fri 11 Dec 2009, 14:15:40
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n 1918, the Soviet Union became the first country to promise universal "cradle-to-grave" healthcare coverage, to be accomplished through the complete socialization of medicine. The "right to health" became a "constitutional right" of Soviet citizens.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he system had many decades to work, but widespread apathy and low quality of work paralyzed the healthcare system. In the depths of the socialist experiment, healthcare institutions in Russia were at least a hundred years behind the average US level. Moreover, the filth, odors, cats roaming the halls, drunken medical personnel, and absence of soap and cleaning supplies added to an overall impression of hopelessness and frustration that paralyzed the system. According to official Russian estimates, 78 percent of all AIDS victims in Russia contracted the virus through dirty needles or HIV-tainted blood in the state-run hospitals.
Britain pioneered in developing kidney-dialysis technology, and yet the country has one of the lowest dialysis rates in the world. The Brookings Institution (hardly a supporter of free markets) found that every year 7,000 Britons in need of hip replacements, between 4,000 and 20,000 in need of coronary bypass surgery, and some 10,000 to 15,000 in need of cancer chemotherapy are denied medical attention in Britain.
Age discrimination is particularly apparent in all government-run or heavily regulated systems of healthcare. In Russia, patients over 60 are considered worthless parasites and those over 70 are often denied even elementary forms of healthcare.
In the United Kingdom, in the treatment of chronic kidney failure, those who are 55 years old are refused treatment at 35 percent of dialysis centers. Forty-five percent of 65-year-old patients at the centers are denied treatment, while patients 75 or older rarely receive any medical attention at these centers.
