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Article: "The Great American Bubble Machine" by M. Taibbi

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Re: The Great American Bubble Machine

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 25 Nov 2009, 22:12:34

I agree Carbon Trading and the "Green Economy" will be the next bubble, or one of them.
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Re: The Great American Bubble Machine

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 26 Nov 2009, 02:12:00

How many peakers buy this particular argument in the essay:

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')And what caused the huge spike in oil prices? Take a wild guess. Obviously Goldman had help — there were other players in the physical-commodities market — but the root cause had almost everything to do with the behavior of a few powerful actors determined to turn the once-solid market into a speculative casino. Goldman did it by persuading pension funds and other large institutional investors to invest in oil futures — agreeing to buy oil at a certain price on a fixed date. The push transformed oil from a physical commodity, rigidly subject to supply and demand, into something to bet on, like a stock. Between 2003 and 2008, the amount of speculative money in commodities grew from $13 billion to $317 billion, an increase of 2,300 percent. By 2008, a barrel of oil was traded 27 times, on average, before it was actually delivered and consumed.


I would say the phrase "almost everything" would seek to discount any illusions of geological peak oil production.

Wouldn't it be nice if a thorough house-cleaning of Goldman Sachs solved all our problems and returned us to Morning in America(TM) again. Somehow I doubt the world is as simple as this essay makes it seem.

I'm of a mind to think you can have peak oil, AGW AND corruption on top. The danger is to think corruption is the only thing to worry about, and do nothing about the underlying problems that are being masked by it.

Part of our failure as species is not only that we don't understand the exponential function, but that we try to always attribute cause and effect in large complex systems to some single all-powerful actor, and fail to see the many interlocking gears that make the world run.
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Re: The Great American Bubble Machine

Unread postby Homesteader » Thu 26 Nov 2009, 02:36:20

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Part of our failure as species is not only that we don't understand the exponential function, but that we try to always attribute cause and effect in large complex systems to some single all-powerful actor, and fail to see the many interlocking gears that make the world run.


Agreed, and I would add that as a species we expect there to be one "silver bullet" solution to complex problems.

As a culture we can't accept that there may not be a solution to every problem, only adaptation.
"The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays, is coming to a close. In its place we are entering a period of consequences…"
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Re: The Great American Bubble Machine

Unread postby deMolay » Thu 26 Nov 2009, 08:57:10

The article actually starts here, and tells quite a tale about GoldmanSachs. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/st ... _machine/1
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Re: The Great American Bubble Machine

Unread postby deMolay » Thu 26 Nov 2009, 08:58:58

I like this quote about the Banksters. $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it's everywhere. The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money. In fact, the history of the recent financial crisis, which doubles as a history of the rapid decline and fall of the suddenly swindled dry American empire, reads like a Who's Who of Goldman Sachs graduates.

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Re: The Great American Bubble Machine

Unread postby sittinguy » Thu 26 Nov 2009, 09:54:47

this is the latest vid from the people who made Hyperinflation nation a while back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZA0qNsf ... &kw=dollar
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Re: The Great American Bubble Machine

Unread postby davep » Thu 26 Nov 2009, 16:36:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'I') like this quote about the Banksters. $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it's everywhere. The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money. In fact, the history of the recent financial crisis, which doubles as a history of the rapid decline and fall of the suddenly swindled dry American empire, reads like a Who's Who of Goldman Sachs graduates.



That's a quote worthy of ReverseEngineer!
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Re: The Great American Bubble Machine

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 27 Nov 2009, 10:18:06

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Agreed, and I would add that as a species we expect there to be one "silver bullet" solution to complex problems. .



I'm not convinced such an attitude is genetic. I'm pretty sure it's cultural.
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