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THE Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Thread (merged)

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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby careinke » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 23:23:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') thought this sort of thing was illegal regardless of which party was in charge. Wasn't there something signed in the '70s... No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.



That was an Executive Order, all it takes is another Executive Order to override it.

Normally assassination is a bad deal for TPTB. Which is why you don't see more of it.
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Re: Democrat CIA Director/US Needs Hit Squads and Manhunt Agency

Unread postby HeckuvaJob » Thu 05 Nov 2009, 23:28:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'T')hat was an Executive Order, all it takes is another Executive Order to override it.
Normally assassination is a bad deal for TPTB. Which is why you don't see more of it.

Well... there you have it.

Has an overriding order been signed?

I think we're seeing plenty of assassinations - we just call them targeted killings now.
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Re: biased title : more useless internet bs

Unread postby Jotapay » Fri 06 Nov 2009, 01:05:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'I')t's easy to say "run by". It's kind of like claiming one country is a puppet of another country or entity. It's another thing to actually prove it to people who aren't wearing tinfoil hats.



You must not have read the article. I knew I could get a Mos trolling post with this.

*ahem*
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')The CIA] sent terror war suspects to Uzbekistan as part of its extraordinary rendition program. ... And the intelligence from these torture sessions was being received by the CIA...


There! All in a nice, neat package for you who don't like to read, Mos.
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Re: Why wars are fought and how they are started

Unread postby evgeny » Thu 14 Jan 2010, 13:02:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mainster', 'W')hat do you mean again? Iraq and Afghanistan were only about oil/pipelines from the beginning! Is it coincidence that all the so called "axis of evil" countries are oil producing countries or essential for oil pipeline routes? Check out the connections between military deployments and oil production. US (and others) have a history of supporting brutal dictators and suppressing or instating coups against democratically elected leaders who did not follow Washingtons orders.

Wars are always fought for treasure (resources). Why else go to war?
The "problem" for the leaders is that they often have to "invent" some other pretext, be it religious, ideological, false provocation (fx fake terrorism). Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely!

"Naturally the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pascifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."

Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg Trials after WWII

Sounds familiar???

History repeats itself!


Is Anyone Telling Us The Truth?
By Paul Craig Roberts

What are we to make of the failed Underwear Bomber plot, the Toothpaste, Shampoo, and Bottled Water Bomber plot, and the Shoe Bomber plot? These blundering and implausible plots to bring down an airliner seem far removed from al-Qaida's expertise in pulling off 9/11.

If we are to believe the U.S. government,Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged al-Qaida "mastermind" behind 9/11, outwitted the CIA, the NSA, indeed all 16 U.S. intelligence agencies as well as those of all U.S. allies including Mossad, the National Security Council, NORAD, Air Traffic Control, Airport Security four times on one morning, and Dick Cheney, and with untrained and inexperienced pilots pulled off skilled piloting feats of crashing hijacked airliners into the World Trade Center towers, and the Pentagon, where a battery of state of the art air defenses somehow failed to function.

After such amazing success, al-Qaida would have attracted the best minds in the business, but, instead, it has been reduced to amateur stunts.The Underwear Bomb plot is being played to the hilt on the TV media and especially on Fox "news." After reading recently that The Washington Post allowed a lobbyist to write a news story that preached the lobbyist's interest, I wondered if the manufacturers of full-body scanners were behind the heavy coverage of the Underwear Bomber, if not behind the plot itself. In America, everything is for sale. Integrity is gone with the wind.

Recently I read a column by an author who has a"convenience theory" about the Underwear Bomber being a Nigerian allegedly trained by al-Qaida in Yemen. As the U.S. is involved in an undeclared war in Yemen, about which neither the American public nor Congress were informed or consulted, the Underwear Bomb plot provided a convenient excuse for Washington's new war, regardless of whether it was a real attack or a put-up job.

Once you start to ask yourself about whose agenda is served by events and their news spin, other things come to mind. For example, last July there was a news report that the government in Yemen had disbanded a terrorist cell, which was operating under the supervision of Israeli intelligence services. According to the news report, Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh told the Saba news agency that a terrorist cell was arrested and that the case was referred to judicial authorities "for its links with the Israeli intelligence services."

Could the Underwear Bomber have been one of the Israeli terrorist recruits? Certainly Israel has an interest in keeping the US fully engaged militarily against all potential foes of Israel's territorial expansion.

The thought brought back memory of my Russian studies at Oxford University where I learned that the Tsar's secret police set off bombs so that they could blame those whom they wanted to arrest. I next remembered that Francesco Cossiga, the president of Italy from 1985-1992, revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, a false flag operation under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. The bombings were blamed on communists and were used to discredit communist parties in elections.

An Italian parliamentary investigation unearthed the fact that the attacks were overseen by the CIA. Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated in sworn testimony that the attacks targeted innocent civilians, including women and children, in order"to force the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security."

What a coincidence. That is exactly what 9/11 succeeded in accomplishing in the U.S.

Among the well-meaning and the gullible in the West,the supposition still exists that government represents the public interest. Political parties keep this myth alive by fighting over which party best represents the public's interest. In truth, government represents private interests, those of the office holders themselves and those of the lobby groups that finance their political campaigns. The public is in the dark as to the real agendas.

The U.S. and its puppet state allies were led to war in the Middle East and Afghanistan entirely on the basis of lies and deception. Iraqi weapons of mass destruction did not exist and were known by the U.S. and British governments not to exist. Forged documents, such as the "yellowcake documents," were leaked to newspapers in order to create news reporting that would bring the public along with the government's war agenda.

Now the same thing is happening in regard to the nonexistent Iranian nuclear weapons program. Forged documents leaked to The Times (London) that indicated Iran was developing a"nuclear trigger" mechanism have been revealed as forgeries.

Who benefits? Clearly, attacking Iran is on the Israeli-U.S. agenda, and someone is creating the "evidence" to support the case, just as the leaked secret "Downing Street Memo" to the British cabinet informed Prime Minister Tony Blair's government that President Bush had already made the decision to invade Iraq and "the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."

The willingness of people to believe their rulers and the propaganda ministries that serve the rulers is astonishing. Many Americans believe Iran has a nuclear weapons program despite the unanimous conclusion of 16 U.S. intelligence agencies to the contrary.

Vice President Dick Cheney and the neoconservatives fought hard with limited success to change the CIA's role from intelligence agency to a political agency that manufactures facts in support of the neoconservative agenda. For the Bush Regime creating "new realities" was more important than knowing the facts.

Recently I read a proposal from a person purporting to favor an independent media that stated that we must save the print media from financial failure with government subsidies. Such a subsidy would complete the subservience of the media to government.

Even in Stalinist Russia, a totalitarian political system where everyone knew that there was no free press, a gullible or intimidated public and Communist Party enabled Joseph Stalin to put the heroes of the Bolshevik Revolution on show trial and execute them as capitalist spies.

In the U.S. we are developing our own show trials. Sheikh Mohammed's will be a big one. As Chris Hedges recently pointed out, once government uses demonized Muslims to get the new justice (sic) system going, the rest of us will be next.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Is-Anyone-Telling-Us-The-T-by-Paul-Craig-Roberts-100108-422.html

author did not mention one of the main objectives of the authors of all these "terrorist-incidents," it is - a global surveillance and control of citizens.
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Re: THE Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Thread (merged)

Unread postby pablonite » Thu 14 Jan 2010, 13:25:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')ould the Underwear Bomber...

Body scanners, installed or being installed in all NWO participating airports 8)
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Re: THE Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Thread (merged)

Unread postby pablonite » Sat 23 Jan 2010, 23:55:26

From an official mouthpiece, how would the CIA describe itself?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ur motto is “the secret of our success is the secret of our success,”

...We’re working on the psychology. Intelligence is a tricky business; it means recruiting people to essentially commit treason on behalf of us, betraying those they’re supposed to be loyal to. Some lie, some cheat; it’s dangerous and tricky. Usually they flip for money, but sometimes they have a vendetta, and sometimes they just want the excitement...

...It’s called the protection of sources and methods, so it’s not surprising that the CIA doesn’t want to discuss how we do this stuff. Right after 9/11, when the CIA went to Afghanistan ahead of the military and did a great job, it was called Operation Jawbreaker. The CIA bribed Afghan warlords to fight for us instead of the Taliban. The warlords are loyal to only one thing: money. Was it a mistake? No. These people are evil people. You want to find the evil ones, and use them...

...Most of the covers are government positions: State Department, Defense, or nonofficial people undercover as businessmen and -women working for large corporations. But cover is not the problem. The problem is getting access to the people who might know what we want to know...

I worked at CIA public affairs,

http://www.bu.edu/today/world/2010/01/2 ... -s-critics

Heh, telling it like it is. Oh, he also said the CIA never overthrows governments, that's just in the movies. I am almost sure this has been documented?
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Re: THE Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Thread (merged)

Unread postby pablonite » Sun 24 Jan 2010, 00:14:32

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for- ... i5a03p.htm

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat unfolded in May and June of 1954 is now a familiar story in US intelligence and diplomatic history: Washington used the CIA and US Ambassador John Peurifoy to support and direct certain Guatemalan military leaders in overthrowing Arbenz's government. It was also psychological warfare--cleverly deceptive efforts to persuade Guatemala's citizens and political/military leaders that a major invasion force was steadily moving toward the nation's capital so unnerved Arbenz and others that the government fell without much of a battle.


It's a long article right from the horses mouth. I didn't finish reading it so no sure if they recant :lol:
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