[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'A') jury of his peers will decide his fate.

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'A') jury of his peers will decide his fate.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '
')Now, this guy on the other hand, did experience an "iWatch" and he is from your way also, Mos

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'A') jury of his peers will decide his fate.

[Pretorian]

One guy I knew had an uncle who disappeared awhile ago. So now some archives are open and he found a trace of him.. He was arrested and three months later executed. So here comes the best part.. He wasnt charged with anything. No accusation, no investigation, no court, no tortures in the coroner's office. Just arrested, locked up and shot. Blue-collar worker in his 20s.

[Jotapay]

Pretorian, where was that? Not the USA?

[Pretorian]

It was in Russia. Coming to your theater this winter...

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'I')t was in Russia. Coming to your theater this winter...

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'I')t was in Russia. Coming to your theater this winter...

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'I')t was in Russia. Coming to your theater this winter...

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')Of course, an impossible matter in the land of the free and home of the brave. I mean that they will actually leave a written record of somebody getting offed without a trial or even a charge.

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'S')o the US government will start offing people, but they will be completely erased like Men in Black? Come on, man. That's tinfoil and you know it. If you're going to say we'll have a Kent State type massacre, that's one thing, but don't start building elaborate paranoid fantasies.

[Jotapay]

Just tell me when you want these "fantasies" to stop.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he second mass grave (photo below), in Yanov township amidst the old Jewish cemetary, holds the 1000 Jews of Yanov that were killed in a house-to-house extermination by SS stormtroops. They were then thrown in a mass pit. Among these Jews are my father's aunts, uncles, and cousins. Today, I'm involved in caring for this site. If I don't, then the Ukranians will turn it into a potato field.

[Jotapay]

[Jotapay]

More of your fantasies, Mos.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Dachau Gas Chamber Interior

"The internees who were brought to Camp Dachau for the sole purpose of being executed were in most cases Jews and Russians. They were brought to the compound, lined up near the gas chambers, and were screened in a similar manner as internees who came to Dachau for imprisonment. Then they were marched to a room and told to undress. Everyone was given a towel and a piece of soap, as though they were about to take a shower. During this whole screening process, no hint was ever given that they were to be executed, for the routine was similar upon arrival of all internees in the camp." Quoted from The Official Report by the U.S. Seventh Army, released only days after the camp was liberated.

[Jotapay]

More of your "fantasies".

The rape of Nanking by the Japanese. Utterly horrific warcrimes where people were beheaded with swords daily for small offenses and women were systematically raped for years on end during the occupation.

[Jotapay]

More common behavior in the pit outside Nanking city limits as soldiers practiced their bayonet. All fantasy.

[Jotapay]

More fantasy in Nanking.

[Jotapay]

Japanese soldier after sword practice with live bait at Nanking. Note the head in his left hand. All fantasy, Mos? You think humans are not capable in the USA of what you deny? It already is happening in Iraq. Americans are raping women and children in prisons in Iraq, according to Seymor Hersh. And the Pentagon has refused to release the pictures he's talking about and has not denied his story. I'll post it in a minute. That is why I post these. This type of behavior is NOT fantasy and must be eternally guarded against. Your denial that it can exist is despicable from a human rights perspective.

[Jotapay]

All fantasies, right Mos? Hersh is a Pullitzer Prize winning journalist and none of his stories have been denied/disproven in the time I've been following him (almost 10 years).

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/ ... index.html

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Hersh: Children sodomized at Abu Ghraib, on tape


War Room
Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 10:26 PDT
Hersh: Children sodomized at Abu Ghraib, on tape
By Geraldine Sealey

After Donald Rumsfeld testified on the Hill about Abu Ghraib in May, there was talk of more photos and video in the Pentagon's custody more horrific than anything made public so far. "If these are released to the public, obviously it's going to make matters worse," Rumsfeld said. Since then, the Washington Post has disclosed some new details and images of abuse at the prison. But if Seymour Hersh is right, it all gets much worse.

Hersh gave a speech last week to the ACLU making the charge that children were sodomized in front of women in the prison, and the Pentagon has tape of it. The speech was first reported in a New York Sun story last week, which was in turn posted on Jim Romenesko's media blog, and now EdCone.com and other blogs are linking to the video. We transcribed the critical section here (it starts at about 1:31:00 into the ACLU video.) At the start of the transcript here, you can see how Hersh was struggling over what he should say:

"Debating about it, ummm ... Some of the worst things that happened you don't know about, okay? Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out."