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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby lowem » Tue 08 Sep 2009, 12:13:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jester', 'C')anada, with Suncor and Petro Canada merged, they are cutting 1000 jobs. They employed around 13,000 prior to this, so thats a cut of around 7.6% of their work force.


Just so that when oil goes back above $100, they'll be scrambling again.
How about that for a boom-bust cycle.
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby lowem » Thu 17 Sep 2009, 10:18:26

Japan Airlines to cut 6,800 jobs, pursue tie-up

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')apan Airlines (JAL) said on Tuesday it would slash 6,800 jobs and pursue a tie-up with a foreign carrier in a bid to return to profit in the face of severe turbulence unleashed by the global recession ... "The personnel reduction cannot wait," president Haruka Nishimatsu told reporters after briefing a government-appointed panel on the planned revamp. "The world is changing, and we have to adjust our size. It's easy to expand, but it's extremely difficult to downsize," he said.


Perhaps it is more difficult for the Japanese compared to the Americans ...
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby lowem » Thu 17 Sep 2009, 10:21:09

BAE Systems to cut 1,100 jobs in Britain

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ritish defence equipment firm BAE Systems will axe 1,100 jobs in Britain and close a key facility in northwestern England, trade unions said on Tuesday ... one site in Woodford, Cheshire, will be shut down.


Watch out below when the going gets tougher even for traditionally defensive sectors such as defence, education and healthcare.

I am getting more convinced that there are simply no fundamentals in this so-called recovery.
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby lowem » Thu 17 Sep 2009, 10:31:34

Magna says it plans to cut 10,500 jobs at Opel

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he co-head of Canadian auto parts maker Magna said Monday that it planned to cut 10,500 posts at loss-making German car maker Opel once it completes its takeover of the General Motors' unit ... GM said last week that it would sell a 55-percent stake in Opel to a consortium composed of Magna and the state-owned Russian lender Sberbank.
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby hardtootell-2 » Thu 17 Sep 2009, 12:34:37

I have been looking at Engineering jobs for my city of 1 million. During good times I noticed 30-50 new ads per day. Over the last month or so, I have seen between 0 and 4 posts for new jobs per day. I was using the exact same search criteria on the exact same website. :cry:
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby Cog » Thu 17 Sep 2009, 22:37:43

In my own field of land surveying, our monthly newsletter generally had 2 to 3 pages of help wanted ads prior to the recession hitting. The last one I received had 3 ads total :shock: and 6 businesses for sale.

Since nothing much gets built of any consequence without a surveyor getting involved, it tells me the recession is hitting all aspects of the construction trade.

The only thing our company is doing right now is government work and that is slowing down as well.
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby hardtootell-2 » Fri 25 Sep 2009, 18:15:05

Anecdotally- as I heard it in confidence. An engineering firm in Western Canada laid off 75% of their engineering staff since January. Engineering used to comprise 60% of their revenues. This represents >1500 engineering jobs!

Not quite what you hear in the media!

Are we at the bottom yet? :cry:
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby patience » Fri 25 Sep 2009, 18:43:28

lowem,

RE: Whirlpool plant closing.

I live about 80 miles from there, and have seen the plant. It's about half a mile long. (Takes a LOT of room to build zillions of appliances.) Those 1,100 jobs are the primo jobs in the city. Evansville will not be the same after this. Yes, they have an engineering college there, and it is a good agricultural area, but the real money came from Whirlpool. Evansville is also on the Ohio River, and I'm sure that shipping is (was) significant there, also, but with the best jobs gone, the city will decline.

At 80 miles away, even I got some work from there, indirectly, from a wireforming company that makes their oven and refrigerator shelves. That company is in Elizabethtown, KY, and Whirlpool is their major customer, so they will suck air now. This plant closing will affect at least a 75 mile radius. Indiana is reverting to its' historical beginning as a farming state, and the farmers ain't doing too good, either. I know that for a fact, since they provide 80% of my repair shop business. My receipts for the year so far are down 60% +.
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby hardtootell-2 » Fri 25 Sep 2009, 21:20:12

Does anyone think that any of the unemployed, their family or friends or associates or former coworkers are out spending on much more than the necessities? You would have to really be asleep at the switch or in deep denial not to realize that you could be next. Its chilling to think how deep this probably goes already.
And if you trust teh government numbers/spin I have some credit default swaps I'd like to sell you. :)

IMHO it is GD2.
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby JJ » Fri 25 Sep 2009, 21:45:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hardtootell-2', 'D')oes anyone think that any of the unemployed, their family or friends or associates or former coworkers are out spending on much more than the necessities? You would have to really be asleep at the switch or in deep denial not to realize that you could be next. Its chilling to think how deep this probably goes already.
And if you trust teh government numbers/spin I have some credit default swaps I'd like to sell you. :)

IMHO it is GD2.


you OBVIOUSLY haven't been paying attention to oily and anti..., all's well now! :)
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby the48thronin » Fri 25 Sep 2009, 22:21:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JJ', ' ')you OBVIOUSLY haven't been paying attention to oily and anti..., all's well now! :)


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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby lowem » Mon 28 Sep 2009, 18:52:29

(Japan’s second-largest consumer lender) Aiful to Trim 2,000 Jobs, Forecasts $3.4 Billion Loss

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')iful Corp., Japan’s second- largest consumer lender by assets, announced plans to cut as much as 44 percent of its workforce and forecast a full-year loss, sending the shares to a six-month low.
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby lowem » Mon 28 Sep 2009, 18:57:28

Russian car giant Avtovaz to cut up to 27,600 jobs

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ussian car giant Avtovaz said on Thursday it would slash up to 27,600 jobs as it struggles with sliding sales due to the impact of the global economic slump. "Today, 102,000 people work at Avtovaz. Such a number cannot guarantee effective and profitable production, therefore we have agreed to reduce the personnel by 27,600 people," the carmaker said in a statement.


Never heard of Avtovaz. But that's a lot of jobs.

I'd suppose for the Russians it's been a while since the days of "we pretend to work, they pretend to pay us".
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby hardtootell-2 » Mon 28 Sep 2009, 19:12:41

I had a freaky weird experience today. I was having a business lunch with two former coworkers who had been through 2 rounds of layoffs with me from companies we used to work with. Their major customer just went bankrupt. Their US parent company is on the rocks and neither of them thought there was anything but blue skys and sunshine ahead... go figure! Talk about your deeeeep denial! It is kinda surreal.
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby lowem » Sat 10 Oct 2009, 07:31:01

Dell to close N.C. plant, eliminate 905 jobs

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')our years after opening a computer manufacturing plant in Forsyth County, Dell Inc. announced plans Wednesday to shutter the operation, laying off all 905 workers ... when Dell selected North Carolina for its new plant, the company promised to invest at least $100 million in its plant and create at least 1,500 jobs by 2020. Its 750,000-square-foot plant opened in late 2005 with great fanfare - company founder Michael Dell joined state and local officials at the dedication ...


What a difference 4 years makes.
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby Homesteader » Sat 10 Oct 2009, 08:44:33

We moved to the Greensboro area in the summer of 2005. The whole area was simply giddy with the news of Dell choosing to build there. It was like manifest destiny was still operative.
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby shortonsense » Sat 10 Oct 2009, 09:09:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hardtootell-2', 'D')oes anyone think that any of the unemployed, their family or friends or associates or former coworkers are out spending on much more than the necessities?


Yes.

Heck, no one in my family has even lost a job yet, HVAC installation, teaching, catering, technical writing/editing for a publishing company, electronics repair for the Navy, insurance agent, renewables researcher (go insulation!), nursing.

I keep waiting for the first layoff to show up....of course, none of them are in Las Vegas or California, which appears to be a good thing right from the getgo.

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')You would have to really be asleep at the switch or in deep denial not to realize that you could be next. Its chilling to think how deep this probably goes already.
And if you trust teh government numbers/spin I have some credit default swaps I'd like to sell you. :)

IMHO it is GD2.


You mean, except for the 90% or so of people actually working, right?
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby JJ » Sat 10 Oct 2009, 10:00:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lowem', '[')url=http://www.wral.com/business/story/6156112]Dell to close N.C. plant, eliminate 905 jobs[/url]$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')our years after opening a computer manufacturing plant in Forsyth County, Dell Inc. announced plans Wednesday to shutter the operation, laying off all 905 workers ... when Dell selected North Carolina for its new plant, the company promised to invest at least $100 million in its plant and create at least 1,500 jobs by 2020. Its 750,000-square-foot plant opened in late 2005 with great fanfare - company founder Michael Dell joined state and local officials at the dedication ...
What a difference 4 years makes.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ':')Winston-Salem Mayor Allen Joines issued a statement Wednesday night saying Dell would repay all the money the city provided to the company in upfront costs and annual incentive payments.

Joines said he was assured by Kip Thompson, vice president for facilities, that Dell will honor its commitment to repay the $15.56 million the city has provided since Dell agreed to build the plant.

But millions of dollars won't be returned. Public agencies paid to prepare the Dell site for construction, widen roads leading to the plant, and equip community colleges to train company workers before the plant opened.
CNN said the city will sue to recover this money also...good luck with that...
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Sat 10 Oct 2009, 10:26:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Dell buys Perot Systems for $3.9 billion22 Sep 2009:
NEW YORK, 21 Sep 2009 (AFP) - US computer giant Dell said Monday it is buying computer services firm Perot Systems for $3.9 billion in a move seen as a bid to counter rivals IBM and Hewlett-Packard and expand beyond its core PC business.

Dell, the second-largest US computer manufacturer after HP, said it plans to acquire all ordinary shares of the company founded by Texas billionaire Ross Perot for $30 a share, a 65-percent premium over Friday's closing price.

"Dell and Perot Systems have entered a definitive agreement for Dell to acquire Perot Systems in a transaction valued at approximately $3.9 billion," Dell said in a statement.
And this: (Mar 09)Dell
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')edit] Sellout to Teleperformance
Battered by falling sales and the global financial meltdown, US-based computer maker Dell has decided to sell at an undisclosed price its call center site at the SM Mall of Asia in Pasay City to call center operator Teleperformance.

It was a painful end for the Pasay facility since it was Michael Dell, the company’s founder and CEO, himself who inaugurated the site just three years ago in his first visit to the country.

Dell’s other call center facility in Quezon City "is not part of the sale," a statement from the company said. The Pasay site provides consumer tech support for the US and Australia-New Zealand, while the Quezon City facility caters to commercial business clients.

The announcement, made on March 20, said "jobs will remain in the Philippines," meaning the estimated 1,000 employees at the site will be absorbed by Teleperformance. The affected workers, however, have the option to accept or reject the job offers expected to be made by Teleperformance.

Although it has been handling Dell accounts in its other locations, the deal will allow France-headquartered Teleperformance to provide call center services to Dell for the first time from its Philippine site. Teleperformance currently operates facilities in 46 countries and reportedly the 150th-largest private sector employer in the world with more than 88,000 full-time equivalent employees.
Leading to: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Expanding Global Recruiting Perot Systems leaders and local luminaries inaugurate facility in Manila, Philippines:
Two years ago, Steve Mooney, vice-president of Tenet Healthcare Corporation’s Patient Financial Services operations, asked Anurag Jain, president of Insurance and Business Process Solutions (IBPS) and his team to explore setting up of a delivery center in Manila, Philippines to grow Tenet’s Patient Financial Services group’s revenue cycle outsourcing. With a successful 14-year relationship with Tenet, Anurag knew this was the next step in helping Tenet grow their business and developed a project team to lead the way.]/quote]

Perot

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')n March 21, 2007, the “idea” became a reality, when several local business and government officials joined leaders from Perot Systems to officially inaugurate the Insurance and Business Process Solutions (IBPS) facility. Peter Altabef, president and CEO, and Tenet’s Steve Mooney welcomed attendees and cut the ribbon on the Perot Systems Technology Center. This event was a fruition of nearly two years of planning and collaboration which involved several associates from across multiple functions and process groups in India and Manila to successfully establish the Perot Systems Manila center.
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Re: THE Let the worldwide layoffs begin Thread (merged)

Unread postby lowem » Thu 15 Oct 2009, 23:24:49

More news on Avtovaz, the Russian car-maker mentioned earlier :

Russian car giant on verge of bankruptcy

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ussia's largest carmaker Avtovaz is on the verge of bankruptcy and needs to cut almost 50,000 jobs if it is to have any hope of survival, a newspaper Thursday quoted a ministry memo as saying ... the Lada car maker has already announced plans to slash 27,600 jobs from its workforce of 102,000 in a bid to cope with the slumping demand caused by the economic crisis. But the memo said that current output levels are such that the workforce should stand at only 55,000, meaning job cuts of almost 50,000 should be required.


Oh so they are the makers of Lada. I see.
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