by Outcast_Searcher » Sun 06 Sep 2009, 13:32:41
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') The entire NG and Oil industry is in DEEP TROUBLE if these prices remain where they are. The economy is in DEEP TROUBLE if the industry cannot recover from this fact. You have failed in your classic cornucopian outlook to understand the implications of what is going on. You can run around screaming all day long about the daily moves in numbers but that does not change the macro picture which will drive what happens in the future.
The industry cannot move fast enough, nor does it have the capital to do so. It's happening right in front of your eyes, but all you can do is count rigs.
Pretty funny actually.
There's one thing about this I don't get. The majority of this site seems to be doomers of one flavor or another and en masse, they spend much of their time citing why the world economy is in terrible shape and there won't be growth in demand, etc. for a LONG time if EVER.
OK, that may be. (I have no clue - IMO, the global economy is far too complex for any talking heads to accurately predict especially longer term - which is why even "real" economists' opinions are all over the map). But in a global long term recession/depression scenario, the global demand for petroleum would be relatively weak, and mitigate or eliminate the massive spike in crude oil prices that your case ("DEEP trouble") implies.
To me, the fact that oil prices have more than doubled off the lows this winter (using $70 as a proxy for the recent price in the past few weeks) is a healthy sign -- if we have restrained global growth for awhile. The growth signs overall seem mildly positive recently, doomer howls or not - so oil prices SEEM to be reflecting that.
I will agree that eventually, when we have strong sustained global growth again, we're in danger of massive price spikes and the risk of another recessionary cycle (which could repeat ad naseum). However, most of the doomer talk seems to say that the possibility of strong sustained global growth is basically nil - that we're doomed before that happens.
I also don't think $150 oil is the end of the world if it approaches gradually and folks can adjust (and whine - there's always plenty of that) -- now $300 or above -- that's a whole different ballgame.
Am I missing something obvious in the likely scenario?