[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dohboi', 'C')hina will likely start buying up vast tracts of prime agricultural land in the US (and perhaps UK?) as they are doing now in Africa, in lieu of repayment of our enormous debt. Of course, any kind of ag will be more and more difficult to engage in as the climate gets more and more chaotic.

[Cid_Yama]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he English hid behind the fact that they were the constitutional government for the Irish people pretending to be concerned by begging food for her people abroad while at the same time by constitutional policies taking the food from the people. They were ruthless in putting down all attempts by the Irish for self-government and all attempts of resistance. They passed laws that made it a crime for a father to protect his children or his home from destruction. They passed coercion laws that made it a crime for the Irish to leave their homes between sunrise and sunset or to hold arms. They had a well-fed armed guard of military and police watch over them while they starved. Never in the history of mankind was there a government who acted so cruelly to its people. Ireland never needed the begging bowl it had its own food grown in its own land and only needed its own concerned legislatures to pass laws to save her people. The constitutional Government of England was then the most powerful in the world and had the ear of the world through its influence and press. They manipulated the facts to cover up the real truth of what was happening in Ireland the mass murder of its people and the destruction of Ireland. An English induced constitutional famine.

During the famine years there was plenty of food in Ireland enough to feed double its population. Yes the potato failed but all other crops thrived. Under the system at the time Irish food was exported mainly to English markets but from they're found its way to many parts of the world. It puzzled many to hear there was famine in a land that had so much food to export .In normal countries it was usual to export food only after its population was fed. This was not the case in Ireland; during the period her food was taken away against the wishes of her people, usually at gunpoint and escorted to the ports under military guard. It was then carried away on ships leaving misery and starvation behind.

[dohboi]

What Cid wrote. Coming soon to a neo-colony in your home town?

[dissident]

On the subject of government induced famines, the British were no better than Stalin when it comes to India.

Heart of Smugness

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'H')aving 3 children is an understandable reason for being in denial.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'H')ave children everyone, the earth will be here for another 1000 years and so will humans, no massive die off from GW, maybe a outbreak of a bad flu or virus but no massive die off, popultate the world...

[Umber]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he English hid behind the fact that they were the constitutional government for the Irish people pretending to be concerned by begging food for her people abroad while at the same time by constitutional policies taking the food from the people. They were ruthless in putting down all attempts by the Irish for self-government and all attempts of resistance. They passed laws that made it a crime for a father to protect his children or his home from destruction. They passed coercion laws that made it a crime for the Irish to leave their homes between sunrise and sunset or to hold arms. They had a well-fed armed guard of military and police watch over them while they starved. Never in the history of mankind was there a government who acted so cruelly to its people. Ireland never needed the begging bowl it had its own food grown in its own land and only needed its own concerned legislatures to pass laws to save her people. The constitutional Government of England was then the most powerful in the world and had the ear of the world through its influence and press. They manipulated the facts to cover up the real truth of what was happening in Ireland the mass murder of its people and the destruction of Ireland. An English induced constitutional famine.

During the famine years there was plenty of food in Ireland enough to feed double its population. Yes the potato failed but all other crops thrived. Under the system at the time Irish food was exported mainly to English markets but from they're found its way to many parts of the world. It puzzled many to hear there was famine in a land that had so much food to export .In normal countries it was usual to export food only after its population was fed. This was not the case in Ireland; during the period her food was taken away against the wishes of her people, usually at gunpoint and escorted to the ports under military guard. It was then carried away on ships leaving misery and starvation behind.

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Umber', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he English hid behind the fact that they were the constitutional government for the Irish people pretending to be concerned by begging food for her people abroad while at the same time by constitutional policies taking the food from the people. They were ruthless in putting down all attempts by the Irish for self-government and all attempts of resistance. They passed laws that made it a crime for a father to protect his children or his home from destruction. They passed coercion laws that made it a crime for the Irish to leave their homes between sunrise and sunset or to hold arms. They had a well-fed armed guard of military and police watch over them while they starved. Never in the history of mankind was there a government who acted so cruelly to its people. Ireland never needed the begging bowl it had its own food grown in its own land and only needed its own concerned legislatures to pass laws to save her people. The constitutional Government of England was then the most powerful in the world and had the ear of the world through its influence and press. They manipulated the facts to cover up the real truth of what was happening in Ireland the mass murder of its people and the destruction of Ireland. An English induced constitutional famine.

During the famine years there was plenty of food in Ireland enough to feed double its population. Yes the potato failed but all other crops thrived. Under the system at the time Irish food was exported mainly to English markets but from they're found its way to many parts of the world. It puzzled many to hear there was famine in a land that had so much food to export .In normal countries it was usual to export food only after its population was fed. This was not the case in Ireland; during the period her food was taken away against the wishes of her people, usually at gunpoint and escorted to the ports under military guard. It was then carried away on ships leaving misery and starvation behind.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'T')hat is because the will of the people can survive most any thing throwing at them, look at the Jews and what they went thru, so if by chance this GW does pan out like Cid says people will survive, many people, we will adapt...

[Umber]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'T')hat is because the will of the people can survive most any thing throwing at them, look at the Jews and what they went thru, so if by chance this GW does pan out like Cid says people will survive, many people, we will adapt...

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Umber', 'W')here is yours placed?

[Umber]

[quote="Lore"]In my own ability to comprehend reason, science and logic and not some Expletive deleted.quote]And what is the Expletive deleted. you refer to? Are you talking about Timmac's belief that since people made it through very hard times in the past, they might also make it through hard times in the future? Just because he's upbeat doesn't make him wrong.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Umber', 'A')nd what is the Expletive deleted.you refer to? Are you talking about Timmac's belief that since people made it through very hard times in the past, they might also make it through hard times in the future? Just because he's upbeat doesn't make him wrong.

[Umber]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', 'B')eing "upbeat" doesn't make you right either. Drugs can do the same thing for a person.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Umber', 'D')o you know this from experience?

[Umber]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', 'Y')ou're setting a pretty good example.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Umber', 'H')AWHAWHAWHAWHAW!! Jeebus! Do people fall for that kind of tripe often? You wouldn't win any debates but you'd be hell on wheels at dodge ball. Here, Lore, I'll play. Who are you suggesting is on drugs? Timmac? Me? Or are you saying YOU are on drugs?

[timmac]

The problem here is that to many spend there time not waiting for SHTF but wanting it, if its going to that bad Lore than you should be digging that underground shelter about right now or at least have one, if I sound upbeat than OK, but living a sheltered life waiting for something that might not happen you have stolen life from yourself, preparing is OK but believing in it makes you do things that you might regret later.

Lore could you than tell us how bad you believe its going to be, you have stated in another post that millions will die, how ?.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'T')he problem here is that to many spend there time not waiting for SHTF but wanting it, if its going to that bad Lore than you should be digging that underground shelter about right now or at least have one, if I sound upbeat than OK, but living a sheltered life waiting for something that might not happen you have stolen life from yourself, preparing is OK but believing in it makes you do things that you might regret later.

Lore could you than tell us how bad you believe its going to be, you have stated in another post that millions will die, how ?.

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lore', '
')
Drought, famine, pestilence and war are at our doorstep.