[AlexdeLarge]

Dumbing down the naval academy
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/07/023978.php

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ccording to the Washington Post, the Academy has proclaimed as a top priority the building of a student body that reflects the racial madeup of the Navy and of the nation. Consistent with this goal, its newly admitted group of plebes includes 435 minority group members in a class of 1,230. This is the most racially diverse class in the academy's 164-year history.

While the Academy claims that these numbers have been attained "with no loss of scholarship," that claim is inconsistent with the data. According to Fleming, 22 percent of this year's plebes scored less than 600 on the math SAT. Last year, only 12 percent of the plebes failed to hit 600.

Against this evidence, the Naval Academy can boast that 76 percent of the class of 2013 came from the top 20 percent of their high school classes, the same proportion as a decade ago. But the test score data are more probative than the class rank data. For if, as appears, the Academy is now filling its ranks with top students from high schools with lower achieving students than before, the Academy is, indeed, being dumbed down, as Professor Fleming says.

Oh well, it's only our nation's security that's at stake.

[AgentR]

While I understand what you are saying, I don't think the conclusion follows very well. SAT scores are as much an evaluation of the originating high school, as they are of the individual student; and there are plenty of students scoring 500 math on the SAT leaving poor high schools who can in-fact master the calculus and diffy-QQ(lol) that will be required of them at the academy. The Academy's interview process provides plenty of opportunity to insure that those being admitted will be able to complete the academic program.

Not to claim I dislike exit exams as a barometer, but they aren't everything.

[Munqi]

Unbeliavable.


Its not a good time to be a white man.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'U')nbeliavable.


Its not a good time to be a white man.

[Munqi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'U')nbeliavable.


Its not a good time to be a white man.

[Ayoob]

There are some things that shouldn't be thrown under the bus, no matter how good it makes you feel.

[Pretorian]

HA-HA. I wonder when they will start distribute ships and subs according to some racial quota.

[Ainan]

Collapse is coming folks!

At least everyone will feel equal and will not be discriminated against when fighting in the wastelands over the last carrot.

[Windmills]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'H')A-HA. I wonder when they will start distribute ships and subs according to some racial quota.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Windmills', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'H')A-HA. I wonder when they will start distribute ships and subs according to some racial quota.

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', '[')b]Dumbing down the naval academy
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/07/023978.php

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hile the Academy claims that these numbers have been attained "with no loss of scholarship," that claim is inconsistent with the data. According to Fleming, 22 percent of this year's plebes scored less than 600 on the math SAT. Last year, only 12 percent of the plebes failed to hit 600.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '
')They don't say if the additional people scoring under 600 were disproportionately one 'group' or the other. I suspect the lowest performing plebes are those that only got in because their Daddy was a high ranking officer (regardless of their ethnicity).

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '
')They don't say if the additional people scoring under 600 were disproportionately one 'group' or the other. I suspect the lowest performing plebes are those that only got in because their Daddy was a high ranking officer (regardless of their ethnicity).

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '
')They don't say if the additional people scoring under 600 were disproportionately one 'group' or the other. I suspect the lowest performing plebes are those that only got in because their Daddy was a high ranking officer (regardless of their ethnicity).

[Caffeine]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ainan', '
')At least everyone will feel equal and will not be discriminated against when fighting in the wastelands over the last carrot.

[caliginousface]

The SAT tests how well you take the SAT. I couldn't give half a days shit about that test and my score very well represented my sentiment. Was my extremely poor score an accurate assessment of my knowledge, skills or abilities? Nope. I also gave random answers on my standardized tests.

The SAT only measured how well you studied for the bullshit on the test. I don't see much wrong with current Academy students.

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '
')They don't say if the additional people scoring under 600 were disproportionately one 'group' or the other. I suspect the lowest performing plebes are those that only got in because their Daddy was a high ranking officer (regardless of their ethnicity).

[Plantagenet]

Obama's SCOTUS nominee says we may no longer rely on objective testing to hire and promote. Instead, under Obama we will surely have the most race-conscious, gender conscious, and ethnic identity conscious processes we can get.

The Naval academy seems to be going down this same road.

[Plantagenet]

Yup....a whistle blower at the USNA has leaked the details of affirmative action at the USNA

"Midshipmen are admitted by two tracks. White applicants out of high school who are not also athletic recruits typically need grades of A and B and minimum SAT scores of 600 on each part for the Board to vote them "qualified." Athletics and leadership also count.

A vote of "qualified" for a white applicant doesn't mean s/he's coming, only that he or she can compete to win the "slate" of up to 10 nominations that (most typically) a Congress(wo)man draws up. That means that nine "qualified" white applicants are rejected. SAT scores below 600 or C grades almost always produce a vote of "not qualified" for white applicants.

Not so for an applicant who self-identifies as one of the minorities who are our "number one priority." For them, another set of rules apply. Their cases are briefed separately to the board, and SAT scores to the mid-500s with quite a few Cs in classes (and no visible athletics or leadership) typically produce a vote of "qualified" for them, with direct admission to Annapolis. They're in, and are given a pro forma nomination to make it legit.

Minority applicants with scores and grades down to the 300s with Cs and Ds (and no particular leadership or athletics) also come, though after a remedial year at our taxpayer-supported remedial school, the Naval Academy Preparatory School.

By using NAPS as a feeder, we've virtually eliminated all competition for "diverse" candidates: in theory they have to get a C average at NAPS to come to USNA, but this is regularly re-negotiated."

naval academy lowers standards and rejects more qualified white applicants to recruit people of color

[Pretorian]

I wonder if Australian Aborigines are properly represented among USNA students. Their IQ is what , 60, 62? they totally should give them a ship or two.