[Quinny]

mmm.... So you're implying that 75% of the world's population are going to disappear.

n theres me thinking you disagreed with Monte.

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'm')mm.... So you're implying that 75% of the world's population are going to disappear.

n theres me thinking you disagreed with Monte.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', '
')Not only is 75% of the world's population going to disappear, 100% of the world's population is eventually going to disappear.

[Quinny]

Your graph would indicate word population levels to fall by 75% in a very short period of time.$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'N')ot only is 75% of the world's population going to disappear, 100% of the world's population is eventually going to disappear.
Of course, I do not believe humans will decline in population due to food shortages, but I do recognize the inevitability of human population decline (and eventual extinction).

[hardtootell-2]

and then there is this potential famine...

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg1 ... light.html

I remember reading about a similar problem with rice. Scientists had to screen >100000 strains to find a few with some resistance. The ones that had it were nearly lost forever because of natural habitat loss. I think this could be eventually be the "meteor" that rids the earth of us "dinosaurs"

Another very real problem is the loss of expertise in plant science as more old school biologists die or retire. They may be the only ones in their field that can solve the problems that will inevitably occur.

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', ' ')As long as they can drive their fat asses to Marie Callenders they don't give a rat's ass about hungry people today.

[eXpat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', ' ')As long as they can drive their fat asses to Marie Callenders they don't give a rat's ass about hungry people today.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'S')peaking of India and agriculture, looks like India's gonna have another bumper wheat crop. Funny how these doomsday theories just never seem to come true LINK <<<
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]USDA revises India’s March wheat output
WASHINGTON : The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) has revised India's wheat output slightly upward at 78.6 million tones in March from 78.4 million tones in February. --snip--
The estimate for global wheat production has also been raised by 1.6 million tunes to a record 684.4 million tones during marketing year 2008-09, it said. The marketing period of wheat varies from country to country.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', '
')But in poo-pooing all these things you're telling us you really don't want them all to happen and would just as well see all those people die of starvation.

[Specop_007]

Just so we're all clear, I dont give a rats ass about the worlds hungry. I just wanted to throw that out there.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'J')ust so we're all clear, I dont give a rats ass about the worlds hungry. I just wanted to throw that out there.

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eXpat', 'O')n the contrary, by acknowledging reality, by understanding that we are in an unsustainable system that is about to crash or is crasing already, we can move on, can try to implement solutions (albeit on a limited scale). To believe that something will succor us so we can keep with our way of life is part of the problem.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', '
')But in poo-pooing all these things you're telling us you really don't want them all to happen and would just as well see all those people die of starvation.

[ForlornHope]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', ' ')Not sure that purposefully manipulating the price of food is the answer, rather a dismantling of the globalist trade system and the reinstitution of those evil evil "trade barriers" that protect domestic industries, including agriculture.
.

[Homesteader]

Friday, May 29, 2009
Terrible Outlook For 2009 Global Wheat Output

snip: Argentine Soybean Crop Revised Down Again, Wheat Acreage Seen 20 Pct lower

In what is becoming a familiar weekly ritual the Buenos Aires Grain Exchange has revised down its 2009 soybean crop estimate for Argentina to 32.0 MMT from 32.2 MMT a week earlier.

That's a reduction of 30.7% on last year and 36% down on the 50 MMT originally hoped for this season.

Even so there could still be more downward revisions to come yet. The Argentine Rural Confederation, or CRA, last week estimated production at just 30.5 MMT, 34% down on last season.

snip:

1) Romania = output wheat down -30%

2) Ukraine = output wheat down -27%

3) Hungary = output wheat down -28.5%

4) Czech = output wheat down -20%

5) Bulgaria = output wheat down -30%

6) Poland = output wheat down -10%

7) Spain = output wheat down -42%

Australia = output down -10-35%

9) Argentina = output down -34%

10) China = output down -20% or more

11) US = output down -20% or more

12) Canada = output down -12%

13) Russia = output wheat down -21.5%


Conclusion: Nothing has changed. Estimates for agricultural production are being continuously downgraded every month. Droughts, under planting, and lack of credit have devastated global agricultural output. The world is still facing food shortages in 2009.

Link: http://www.marketskeptics.com/2009/05/t ... -weat.html

[Quinny]

I'm still trying to clarify what you were trying to say by posting this graph.

You implication is that the price of texas crude was unsustainable and led to a massive drop, and that population levels are also unsustainable and will massively fall. Is this what you are trying to say?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'A')s Monte says, nature bats last. This chart ain't sustainable.

[copious.abundance]

Quinny I already answered your question at the bottom of page 4. If you don't get it by now, then too bad.