[AlexdeLarge]

Time for a real change. Restore the Constitution !!!!

[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ED ALERT 5

Amongst the myriad of assaults on the Second Amendment rights of American citizens undertaken by the Obama administration during the course of its first year in office, the one that stands out as the most alarming is the attempt to ban people who appear on the terrorist watch list from buying guns.

But isn’t stopping terrorists from buying guns surely a sensible measure to take? The problem is that the terrorist watch list, sometimes called the no fly list, is not a list of likely terrorists, it is a sprawling database of of innocent people that contains the names of over one million Americans. This is a rise of 32% since 2007 alone.

[mos6507]

Alex Jones' Infowars: doing its part to side with the conservatives against green legislation. Politics makes for strange bedfellows.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'G')ame over man! Shoot yourself in the head before they take your guns.

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ED ALERT 5

Amongst the myriad of assaults on the Second Amendment rights of American citizens undertaken by the Obama administration during the course of its first year in office, the one that stands out as the most alarming is the attempt to ban people who appear on the terrorist watch list from buying guns.

But isn’t stopping terrorists from buying guns surely a sensible measure to take? The problem is that the terrorist watch list, sometimes called the no fly list, is not a list of likely terrorists, it is a sprawling database of of innocent people that contains the names of over one million Americans. This is a rise of 32% since 2007 alone.

[AgentR]

The problem with the watch list isn't the size; its the very nature of the thing where the government can take away some of your rights simply because they decide you are annoying.

Its why I suggest the importance of keeping your head down and avoiding confrontations and protests. They've taken a massive step forward over the past decade, in their ability to operate as an unchecked oligarchy; failing to recognize that simply because you might be enamored with the personality currently in charge could prove problematic if the next personality in charge decides that people like you are annoying.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'G')ame over man! Shoot yourself in the head before they take your guns.

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '[')img]http://www.dartmouth.edu/~matc/math5.geometry/unit9/0918.jpeg[/img]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he eight pointed cross becoming a four pointed cross during a
Great Celestial Conjunction. The blue cross represents the Earth Cross
while the red cross represents the Galactic Cross. Qs(blue circle) represents plane of the Solar System and the ecliptic, Es( green circle) represents the plane of the Galaxy.

[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '[')img]http://www.dartmouth.edu/~matc/math5.geometry/unit9/0918.jpeg[/img]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he eight pointed cross becoming a four pointed cross during a
Great Celestial Conjunction. The blue cross represents the Earth Cross
while the red cross represents the Galactic Cross. Qs(blue circle) represents plane of the Solar System and the ecliptic, Es( green circle) represents the plane of the Galaxy.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat's this image have to do with a 4 or 8 pointed cross ? Or, in general, what is it's significance?

[Jotapay]

Vision Master, your posts with all the pics are hillarious. I feel like I'm watching an episode of "In Search Of", hosted by Leonard Nemoy.

[Sixstrings]

I can't help but think this cap n' trade thing really is just the final phase of wealth transference to Asia.

The treehuggers out there seem to be oblvious to the fact that cap n' trade is meaningless if China, India, South America, and Africa are all excluded. With just the Western world paying carbon penalties, it just ammounts to some kind of reparations for past sins.

Don't believe for a second that the Chinese will ever feel any such guilt over mother earth, once their pollution levels eclipse our own.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'V')ision Master, your posts with all the pics are hillarious. I feel like I'm watching an episode of "In Search Of", hosted by Leonard Nemoy.

[mos6507]

Jotapay, Nimoy is in fact Vision-Master's Peak Oil archetype. He should change his avatar to him, but I know he won't, because Nimoy is a JEW!!!

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '.')..because Nimoy is a JEW!!!

[WhatMeWorry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'S')mells like Peak Oil to me?


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ED ALERT 1

The passage of the “Climate Bill” by the House and its likely approval by the Senate represents the entrée for the complete and total subjugation of any freedoms we had left and the beginning of nightmare regulation and suffocating control over every aspect of our personal lives by millions of green stasi tasked with enforcing impossible to attain goals of 80% carbon dioxide reduction - all based on the manufactured threat of global warming.

This bill will also sink the economy and create a new great depression, effectively obliterating America’s first world status. It represents a transfer of power and wealth from both the U.S. government and the American taxpayer over to the system of world government and global regulation now being erected by means of the climate change hoax.

[rangerone314]

I haven't read the text of the climate bill. How many hundred pages is it? Do you ever wonder if the sole reason they make the bills so long is so that no normal human being could possible read it and find out all the s**t buried in there that they wouldn't approve of if it were summarized on page 1?

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'I') can't help but think this cap n' trade thing really is just the final phase of wealth transference to Asia.

The treehuggers out there seem to be oblvious to the fact that cap n' trade is meaningless if China, India, South America, and Africa are all excluded. With just the Western world paying carbon penalties, it just ammounts to some kind of reparations for past sins.

Don't believe for a second that the Chinese will ever feel any such guilt over mother earth, once their pollution levels eclipse our own.

[MonteQuest]

History has shown us that all the great empires of earth fell when they were at their peak; no exceptions. Empires are complex systems that sooner or later succumb to sudden and catastrophic breakdowns associated with fiscal crises. The fall is precipitated by a sharp imbalance between revenues and expenditures and the difficulties in financing the shortfall. History is not linear; it is cyclical. History has its grand empires, but it is also replete with Dark Ages, depressions and wars. History warns us that such cycles will reshape the basic socio-economic environment that we now take for granted. Many in the U.S. still deny that their empire and general economy are heading toward thorough collapse. Mainstream media instructs them to view this downturn as a short pause in the steady march of economic growth and progress.

However, to many observers, America seems to be at a juncture somewhat comparable to the days of Rome before the great fall. We are reenacting every folly that brought that great power to ruin—from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, and resorting to “bread and circus” to massage the masses. Even Alan Greenspan has said the global economy has undergone “by far the greatest financial crisis globally ever.” Yet, politicians and the mainstream media are playing pretend games of recovery and false optimism, while we are about to drive off the same cliff that we did in the 1920’s when there was a massive transfer of wealth from the poor and middle class to the wealthiest 1%.

Empires, like America and Rome, grow so big and sprawling that they become impossible to manage, due to their complexities. The more things the over-stretched tentacles touch, the more susceptible the empire becomes to forces beyond its control. This creates fertile grown for demagogues to come along and do some very foolish things.

Early in our history, debt was largely unknown, except for home mortgages and some consumer loans, and both the people and the government lived within their means. Now we have come to the point where the ludicrous idea of piling on more debt will solve the problem created by too much debt.

America's debt is at 84% of GDP. Foreigners now own $2.5 trillion of America, with China holding over $1.3 trillion in Treasury debt. No foreign country is going to be willing to buy the $13 trillion of debt that we will need to issue in the next ten years, especially when the return is only 1%.
An ordinary Chinese person puts 40 percent of his or her salary into their bank account, while an ordinary American saves at most 3 percent. The problems of the American economy are too great to be reached by tried and true remedies of yore, like tax-cuts or lowered interest rates. Our debt is just too great.

In 1971, we abandoned the gold standard of checks and balances and we began borrowing against the future to keep the house of cards from collapsing. Wages and incomes became stagnant; jobs were going overseas. Without growth in consumer incomes, the economy could go nowhere, so we substituted debt growth for the growth of real commerce. Consumption was fueled by illusions of wealth created by asset price inflation borne of the “tech stock” and “housing” bubbles. Almost all of that economic growth and wealth was just a dream, ephemeral, a phantom.

Easy and cheap credit drove up housing prices, producing home equity that consumers could tap into for big ticket purchases or use to pay off credit cards. To keep the ball rolling, consumers re-maxed out the cards. As Epicurus said: “Nothing is enough to someone for whom enough is little.” When the bubble burst, the asset values and the illusionary wealth disappeared, and the economy died. But the debt remained.

The Secretary of Treasury, Geithner writes, "Without growth, we cannot begin the process of restoring fiscal responsibility." So, to have growth, we must be even more fiscally irresponsible?

What few fail to grasp is that in order to have a sustainable economy, we need to have an economy that doesn’t grow. A debt-based money system that must grow forever is just not possible in a finite world of resources. Even if we embrace a non-growing economy, how do we service the past debt? Remember, our government debt via Treasury bills is another person’s savings we borrowed. And the debt you owe the bank on your mortgage is money created out of thin air. That is how money is created in a fiat system; it is loaned into existence… at interest. Where does the money come from to pay the interest? From money someone else borrowed at interest.

Kind of a Ponzi scheme, no?

[deMolay]

Note This Was Emailed To Me By A Friend::::::The Year America Dissolved



by Paul Craig Roberts, posted August 13th, 2010



It was 2017. Clans were governing America.



The first clans organized around local police forces. The conservatives’ war on crime during the late 20th century and the Bush/Obama war on terror during the first decade of the 21st century had resulted in the police becoming militarized and unaccountable.



As society broke down, the police became warlords. The state police broke apart, and the officers were subsumed into the local forces of their communities. The newly formed tribes expanded to encompass the relatives and friends of the police.



The dollar had collapsed as world reserve currency in 2012 when the worsening economic depression made it clear to Washington’s creditors that the federal budget deficit was too large to be financed except by the printing of money.



With the dollar’s demise, import prices skyrocketed. As Americans were unable to afford foreign-made goods, the transnational corporations that were producing offshore for US markets were bankrupted, further eroding the government’s revenue base.



The government was forced to print money in order to pay its bills, causing domestic prices to rise rapidly. Faced with hyperinflation, Washington took recourse in terminating Social Security and Medicare and followed up by confiscating the remnants of private pensions. This provided a one-year respite, but with no more resources to confiscate, money creation and hyperinflation resumed.



Organized food deliveries broke down when the government fought hyperinflation with fixed prices and the mandate that all purchases and sales had to be in US paper currency. Unwilling to trade appreciating goods for depreciating paper, goods disappeared from stores.



Washington responded as Lenin had done during the “war communism” period of Soviet history. The government sent troops to confiscate goods for distribution in kind to the population. This was a temporary stop-gap until existing stocks were depleted, as future production was discouraged. Much of the confiscated stocks became the property of the troops who seized the goods.



Goods reappeared in markets under the protection of local warlords. Transactions were conducted in barter and in gold, silver, and copper coins.



Other clans organized around families and individuals who possessed stocks of food, bullion, guns and ammunition. Uneasy alliances formed to balance differences in clan strengths. Betrayals quickly made loyalty a necessary trait for survival.



Large-scale food and other production broke down as local militias taxed distribution as goods moved across local territories. Washington seized domestic oil production and refineries, but much of the government’s gasoline was paid for safe passage across clan territories.



Most of the troops in Washington’s overseas bases were abandoned. As their resource stocks were drawn down, the abandoned soldiers were forced into alliances with those with whom they had been fighting.



Washington found it increasingly difficult to maintain itself. As it lost control over the country, Washington was less able to secure supplies from abroad as tribute from those Washington threatened with nuclear attack. Gradually other nuclear powers realized that the only target in America was Washington. The more astute saw the writing on the wall and slipped away from the former capital city.



When Rome began her empire, Rome’s currency consisted of gold and silver coinage. Rome was well organized with efficient institutions and the ability to supply troops in the field so that campaigns could continue indefinitely, a monopoly in the world of Rome’s time.



When hubris sent America in pursuit of overseas empire, the venture coincided with the offshoring of American manufacturing, industrial, and professional service jobs and the corresponding erosion of the government’s tax base, with the advent of massive budget and trade deficits, with the erosion of the fiat paper currency’s value, and with America’s dependence on foreign creditors and puppet rulers.



The Roman Empire lasted for centuries. The American one collapsed overnight.



Rome’s corruption became the strength of her enemies, and the Western Empire was overrun.



America’s collapse occurred when government ceased to represent the people and became the instrument of a private oligarchy. Decisions were made in behalf of short-term profits for the few at the expense of unmanageable liabilities for the many. Overwhelmed by liabilities, the government collapsed.



Globalism had run its course. Life reformed on a local basis.



Dr. Roberts was Assistant Secretary U.S. Treasury, Associate Editor Wall Street Journal, Columnist for Business Week, Senior Research Fellow Hoover Institution Stanford University, and William E. Simon Chair of Political Economy in the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Washington, D.C.