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THE WWII Thread (merged)

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Who deserves most credit for winning WWII?

Russia, because it singlehandedly destroyed Hitler and the Third Reich, sacrificing 26 million Russians in the process
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The local Resistance movements in France, Belgium, Spain, Italy, etc... for their enormous courage in sabotaging the Nazi war machine locally
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The former 'colonial subjects', because even though they were still being oppressed by the Western world, they fought in a war that was least of all theirs; colonial subjects from North Africa, Black Africa, India, Burma
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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby waegari » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 05:24:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grautr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')he fly in the ointment of Europe's shift into a revival of Hitler's corporate socialist ideas (European nationalism) will be the Jews and Israel. I suspect that some arrangement will be reached to water down European nationalism or else face the prospect of pre-emptive strikes by Israel.

The other issue of course will be oiling the European standard of living which requires prodigious amounts of non-European oil. There as well I suspect European nationalism will be watered down to accommodate arrangements with non-European suppliers. And thus we will be back at square one and more disappointment as the rich continue to feather their nests.


It wont be about the Jews. This time the scapegoat will be the Muslims and Israel will be hand in hand with the EU.



Dutch PVV is even staunchly pro-Israel.
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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby dorlomin » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 05:57:13

Funny old story that links to both the OP and the off topic discussion. The UKs neaderthal party the BNP (they want the UK for its original inhabitants.... ie Neanderthals ;) ) had an election leaflet out appealing to British patriotism and WWII. They chose the iconic image of a spitfire in flight as the image at the top of the leaflet.

Now the BNPs big bug bear at the minute is workers from other EU nations out competing local UK skilled workers for jobs and driving down incomes. These are by and large Poles, and the BNP has a very loud campaign about sending the Poles back home.

Well Spitfires are all identifiable by squadron numbers on them........ our genius patriots at the BNP failed to spot the fact that the spitfire on top of their leaflets was from a heroic squadron that had fought valiantly against the fashists...... as a free Polish squadron. :) The dipshits!!!!!
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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby Chuckmak » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 10:15:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', ':')x

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Nice try, Chuck.


It is better to try and fail than to not to try at all...

That pic is hilarious, btw :lol:
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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby americandream » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 15:14:50

I was schooled in the UK and attended a few BNP meetings. In fact I was rather friendly with a BNP fellow at one stage and they are Hitler admirers despite all the rhetoric. He admitted as much that the Jews are an issue and an incomplete one.
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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby americandream » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 16:07:12

A significant aspect of European nationalist anti-Jewish paranoia relates of course to Jewish domination of the banking sector, high finance, gold and diamonds and nothing has changed as far as those sectors are concerned.

If anything, anti-Illuminati and New World Order paranoia is at an all time high, even in so-called liberal political circles. I stand by my belief that a nationalist Europe will do an about face when in office. It will be business as usual.
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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby rangerone314 » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 16:11:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', 'F')unny old story that links to both the OP and the off topic discussion. The UKs neaderthal party the BNP (they want the UK for its original inhabitants.... ie Neanderthals ;) ) had an election leaflet out appealing to British patriotism and WWII. They chose the iconic image of a spitfire in flight as the image at the top of the leaflet.

Now the BNPs big bug bear at the minute is workers from other EU nations out competing local UK skilled workers for jobs and driving down incomes. These are by and large Poles, and the BNP has a very loud campaign about sending the Poles back home.

Well Spitfires are all identifiable by squadron numbers on them........ our genius patriots at the BNP failed to spot the fact that the spitfire on top of their leaflets was from a heroic squadron that had fought valiantly against the fashists...... as a free Polish squadron. :) The dipshits!!!!!


That's hilarious! You should post a picture of the top of the leaflet, and then the list of squadron numbers below that...

Maybe the BNP are worried that their English lasses will take a liking to Polish sausages... there is often some kind of subtext like that in nationalism...
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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby TheDude » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 16:25:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chuckmak', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', ':')x

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Nice try, Chuck.


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That's from Yoda, or the Master from Kung Fu?

Might as well talk about David Carradine now.

Looking it up I see it also attributed to GW. Probably some aphorism that's rooted in antiquity. Mao's Little Red Book was full of pithy insights like "It never rains, but it pours."

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hat pic is hilarious, btw :lol:


Damn, I ran across that something like 4 years ago too, so even this propaganda is rusty.
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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby Ainan » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 16:31:38

My Grandfather fought in WW2 in North Africa. He did not fight to stop 'facism' if indeed that's what the BNP represent. He fought for his freedom and his way of life. He would have voted BNP in these elections, certainly my Nan did.

A nation is a race. People say we deserve it for imposing our own culture on others long ago. Our 'evil' inferior culture. Hell if we didn't conquer India would they still be throwing the widows of deceased men onto the funeral pire if we didn't impose our evil christian values on them?

We can survive facism and incompetence. We can't survive multiculturalism.

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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby Grautr » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 16:47:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ainan', 'M')y Grandfather fought in WW2 in North Africa. He did not fight to stop 'facism' if indeed that's what the BNP represent. He fought for his freedom and his way of life. He would have voted BNP in these elections, certainly my Nan did.

A nation is a race. People say we deserve it for imposing our own culture on others long ago. Our 'evil' inferior culture. Hell if we didn't conquer India would they still be throwing the widows of deceased men onto the funeral pire if we didn't impose our evil christian values on them?

We can survive facism and incompetence. We can't survive multiculturalism.

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Multiculturalism is a failure for sure. There are still culturaly segregated communities in Britain. Where I grew up with the rich Eastenders there were Jewish, Irish, Black West Indian, Black Afrikan, Pakistani and Indian Communites and that was before the East Europeans moved in on mass. Some of those communites have been there a long time though with 3rd, 4th and even 5th generations.

They have found that incidents of racial violence are greater between immigrant communities than between the locals and the immigrants.

Personaly I think with or without the BNP these communities are going to have hard times ahead. Harder than the locals anyway.
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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby americandream » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 16:53:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ainan', 'M')y Grandfather fought in WW2 in North Africa. He did not fight to stop 'facism' if indeed that's what the BNP represent. He fought for his freedom and his way of life. He would have voted BNP in these elections, certainly my Nan did.

A nation is a race. People say we deserve it for imposing our own culture on others long ago. Our 'evil' inferior culture. Hell if we didn't conquer India would they still be throwing the widows of deceased men onto the funeral pire if we didn't impose our evil christian values on them?

We can survive facism and incompetence. We can't survive multiculturalism.

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You conquered Hindu India with its infinitely endless assimilations of cultures so thats not quite appropriate for the point you're making.

Lets look at your conquest of Abrahamic Islam (I civilised an Arab today and whoops, a barrel of sweet crude landed in my lap. What a coincidence!) . How's that working out you reckon?

It's a bloody disaster which is why you have the fiasco of modern day capitalism bombing funeral parties in oil rich dirt poor hells.

Go stand in O' Connel Street,Dublin and spout this rubbish to the Southern Irish. See how long you survive.
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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby Quinny » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 17:30:56

You don't half talk shite sometimes.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ainan', 'M')y Grandfather fought in WW2 in North Africa. He did not fight to stop 'facism' if indeed that's what the BNP represent. He fought for his freedom and his way of life. He would have voted BNP in these elections, certainly my Nan did.

A nation is a race. People say we deserve it for imposing our own culture on others long ago. Our 'evil' inferior culture. Hell if we didn't conquer India would they still be throwing the widows of deceased men onto the funeral pire if we didn't impose our evil christian values on them?

We can survive facism and incompetence. We can't survive multiculturalism.
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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby americandream » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 17:44:54

Frankly, I'm looking forward to the resurgence of blood thirsty and fanatical Euro nationalism. Hopefully both these buggers and the Arab supremacists in Islam will wipe themselves out leaving a better place for the rest of us (and hopefully fewer) homo saps!
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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby dorlomin » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 18:40:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ainan', 'M')y Grandfather fought in WW2 in North Africa. He did not fight to stop 'facism' if indeed that's what the BNP represent. He fought for his freedom and his way of life. He would have voted BNP in these elections, certainly my Nan did.

A nation is a race. People say we deserve it for imposing our own culture on others long ago. Our 'evil' inferior culture. Hell if we didn't conquer India would they still be throwing the widows of deceased men onto the funeral pire if we didn't impose our evil christian values on them?

We can survive facism and incompetence. We can't survive multiculturalism.

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"A nation is a race"? What are you on about now? Do you mean a nation as in a state or a nation as in an ethnic grouping? Either way neither is what people mean when they say 'race'.

As for your bull about multiculturalism, well the UK always has been multicutlural. We have always had a variety of cultures living here. You are just throwing around stock phrases without really thinking about what you are trying to say.


Oh and Churchill would have had nothing to do with the BNP. You seem too be one of the deluded idiots with little grasp of history. Churchill was from the liberaterian wing of the tories, he actualy was a Liberal cabinet minister back in the first couple of decades of the centuary. The BNPs policies on the economy, its welfare state heavy agenda, its aims of controlling free speach, all complete anathemas to Churchill who incidently as PM presided over an influx of non white immigrants. He was also somewhat keen on the very early EU. At worst he would be UKIP or most likely still in the liberatarian wing of the tories along side the Alan Duncans of this world.
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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby dorlomin » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 18:40:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'F')rankly, I'm looking forward to the resurgence of blood thirsty and fanatical Euro nationalism.

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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby dorlomin » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 18:48:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'T')hat's hilarious! You should post a picture of the top of the leaflet, and then the list of squadron numbers below that...



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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')NP bosses have been ridiculed for using a Polish Spitfire to front a campaign calling for Eastern European immigrants to be barred from Britain.

The party's 2009 European Elections poster shows a nostalgic picture of a Second World War fighter plane under the slogan "Battle for Britain".

But RAF history experts have identified the iconic Romeo Foxtrot Delta Plane as belonging not to Britons but to a group of Polish pilots instead.

The plane was actually flown by the celebrated 303 Squadron of the RAF – made up of Polish airmen rescued from France shortly before Nazi occupation


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')uring the Battle of Britain the Poles shot down 203 Luftwaffe aircraft – around 12 per cent of total German losses.

A spokesperson at the Royal Air Force museum said: "The Spitfire in the poster can be identified as belonging to 303 Squadron of the Polish Air Force by the code letters 'RF' painted in front of the RAF roundel.

"303 Squadron operated Spitfires from Northolt, Kirton-in-Lindsey, Coltishall and other RAF stations in the UK between 1941 and 1945 after flying Hurricanes in the Battle of Britain."




Oh and one more thing, the number of votes the BNP got actualy droped slightly, its percentage rose because so many labour voters stayed away in disgust at recent scandals.

This was no swing to the right, it was people refusing to mark an X next to labour.
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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby americandream » Mon 08 Jun 2009, 19:33:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'F')rankly, I'm looking forward to the resurgence of blood thirsty and fanatical Euro nationalism.

:lol:

Away with the fairies; this one.


Maybe I should rephrase that.

"I'ld love to see these Euro and Arab supremacists get their come uppance..as in one big fcukkin punchup that rids us of these opportunistic bastards...once and for all time."

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Re: People of Western Europe...a landing was made this morning..

Unread postby Grautr » Sat 13 Jun 2009, 19:44:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'F')rankly, I'm looking forward to the resurgence of blood thirsty and fanatical Euro nationalism.

:lol:

Away with the fairies; this one.


Maybe I should rephrase that.

"I'ld love to see these Euro and Arab supremacists get their come uppance..as in one big fcukkin punchup that rids us of these opportunistic bastards...once and for all time."

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Who exactly are these Euro supremacists are you talking about? Merkle and Sarkozy???
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