[AlexdeLarge]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '
')There are a lot of rich white men who donate money to fund heart hospitals, they will stay open.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AlexdeLarge', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '
')There are a lot of rich white men who donate money to fund heart hospitals, they will stay open.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'L')ets remember SPG, you and I will not be making the cuts in healthcare. MBA's who care about the bottom line will.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'W')ill waste be cut or will the good services (which go to people who either do not vote or do not give money to foundations or politicians) be cut?

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'W')ill waste be cut or will the good services (which go to people who either do not vote or do not give money to foundations or politicians) be cut?

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '[')b]Depending upon the program, we are talking about real cuts in re-imbursement and not freezing spending where it is.

[wisconsin_cur]

Spg,

Your clients will still be served.

There is a middling chance that mine will not. We have not increased mental health care in the time I have been in the Twin Cities (almost 10 years) but we will be cut; because the average voter does not know how we effect their standard of living... and we are money loosers to the hospital.

There will still be a shiny new heart hospital for the rich heart attack victim. The life-long mentally ill? We got rid of (most of ) the state hospitals during the last big recession and threw the burden on the local hospital. If the local hospital stops providing the care the mentally ill will be out on the street. Or we will keep them in the emergency room even longer.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')o room here; Metro hospital beds for the mentally ill are in such short supply that patients facing crises are routinely shipped across the state.

[wisconsin_cur]

Or we will send them to nursing homes. That should be efficient.

[Tyler_JC]

Fees are NOT taxes.

I pay a fee to use the roller coaster at Six Flags. I can choose to pay that fee or I can choose not to.

I pay taxes to support my local public library. I don't have a choice in the matter. Whether or not I want to support the library is irrelevant. My taxes go there without my input.

For the record, I use the library relatively frequently and would gladly to pay for the service directly.

I would much rather have fees for service (with subsidies for the poor) than direct taxation. At least I can choose which services I want to use in that scenario. Under the current model, especially at the federal level, huge amounts of money are spent by unaccountable bureaucrats and career politicians.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'O')r we will send them to nursing homes. That should be efficient.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'F')ees are NOT taxes.

I pay a fee to use the roller coaster at Six Flags. I can choose to pay that fee or I can choose not to.

I pay taxes to support my local public library. I don't have a choice in the matter. Whether or not I want to support the library is irrelevant. My taxes go there without my input.

For the record, I use the library relatively frequently and would gladly to pay for the service directly.

I would much rather have fees for service (with subsidies for the poor) than direct taxation. At least I can choose which services I want to use in that scenario. Under the current model, especially at the federal level, huge amounts of money are spent by unaccountable bureaucrats and career politicians.

[smallpoxgirl]

I hear you Cur. It always amazed me that nobody wants to pay for mental health services but they're happy to foot the very large expense for arresting, trying, and incarcerating the same people. I'm just not convinced that bribing politicians with an overall tax increase is the way to get the money for mental health. It basically comes down to extortion. Give us $100 we can waste, or else we'll cut the $1 for mental health.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'O')r we will send them to nursing homes. That should be efficient.

[shortonoil]

They will cut mental health services before they cut a $60,000/ year drug enforcement officer who once in a while catches a few kids smoking weed. Prisons are big business, with long fingers into the legislatures. We will continue to have corpo-government until there is no other alternative. They are far too good at praying on our ignorance!

[mattduke]

It will be interesting to see if society collapses in Minnesota with reduced government redistributions. How will society manage to spend it's money on the things that are important to it?

[dohboi]

Pawlenty is a tool of the rigidly anti-tax lobby, but he was happy to ok a tax for a baseball stadium for a team of drug-addled millionaires owned by a billionaire who gets whatever he wants in this state.

He has no legitimacy.

He's leaving office so he doesn't have to face the wrath of the people who will be struggling to endure the harsh realities of life that he has created.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shortonoil', 'T')hey will cut mental health services before they cut a $60,000/ year drug enforcement officer who once in a while catches a few kids smoking weed. Prisons are big business, with long fingers into the legislatures. We will continue to have corpo-government until there is no other alternative. They are far too good at praying on our ignorance!

[vision-master]

New Minnesota Liquor Tax - July 1st 2009

•The tax on beer ill jump from $4.60 per barrel to $11.21
•Distilled spirits taxes will increase from $5.03 to $7.59
•The tax on wine will jump from $0.30 to $0.88

[deMolay]

I can't believe that people who post on Peak Oil can grasp Peak Oil. But they can't grasp that Peak Oil means that the all seeing all knowing Gubmint and it's thousands of social programs that no one can afford has hit the wall. Peak Oil means the death of BIG GUBMINT being there 24/7 for everybody. It has hit the wall.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'I') can't believe that people who post on Peak Oil can grasp Peak Oil. But they can't grasp that Peak Oil means that the all seeing all knowing Gubmint and it's thousands of social programs that no one can afford has hit the wall. Peak Oil means the death of BIG GUBMINT being there 24/7 for everybody. It has hit the wall.