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Preventable medical crisis'

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 27 May 2009, 07:41:04

Sigh, been up most of the night, my 82 year old dad is in the ICU at the local hospital from a burst appendix. Its hard to sleep but its hard to stay awake, its like I am in sort of an emotional limbo. Drifted off to sleep and woke straight up from a dream about carving wheels out of tombstones for wagons or carts.

Yup I am babbling, will be heading to the hospital shortly to sit vigil some more.

Illnesses like this are fatal without modern anti-biotics, the transition period is going to be brutul on us because modern life has made us all soft.
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Re: Preventable medical crisis'

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 27 May 2009, 09:45:39

Best wishes for you, your Dad, and your family.
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Unread postby dunewalker » Wed 27 May 2009, 10:53:13

Best wishes, Tanada!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '
')Illnesses like this are fatal without modern anti-biotics, the transition period is going to be brutul on us because modern life has made us all soft.


As an aside, the only fatality on the Lewis & Clark expedition, was from a burst appendix. A remarkable achievement given the circumstances of their adventures.
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Re: Preventable medical crisis'

Unread postby WildRose » Wed 27 May 2009, 11:17:36

Take care, Tanada. All my best to you and your family.

As an aside, a burst appendix is unusual in a person your dad's age. One never knows.
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Unread postby Windmills » Wed 27 May 2009, 11:23:01

I hope everything works out for the best for you and your family.
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Re: Preventable medical crisis'

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Thu 28 May 2009, 21:00:04

Sorry about your dad, Tanada. Hopefully he pulls through okay.
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Re: Preventable medical crisis'

Unread postby Tanada » Sun 31 May 2009, 10:23:35

Thank you all for the support, turns out Dad had a heart attack in post op after the surgery and that was only a piece of the problem, he also has had reduced Kidney function. His Kidneys are now working acceptibley well for an old timer but his BP remains uncontrolled. Oddly enough it is at night when we leave him to rest that it spikes up in the low 200's which sure as heck ain't good when you are recovering from a heart attack. I have to go back to work tomorrow, they let me take four days while he was in ICU but now that he is on the cardiac floor in a regular room its a lot tougher of a sell. It will likely be weeks before he can move back home.
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Unread postby Ludi » Sun 31 May 2009, 12:10:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', ' ')It will likely be weeks before he can move back home.



The sooner you can get him home the safer he will be. There is an enormous risk of death from hospital-contracted infection these days. My stepmom died from complications of this after a stroke. She was well on the way to recovery when she contracted pneumonia in the hospital and it was all downhill from there.

Is there any way you can get your Dad home and get him in-home care?

My best wishes to you, your Dad, and the rest of your family.
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Re: Preventable medical crisis'

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Sun 31 May 2009, 12:24:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'T')hank you all for the support, turns out Dad had a heart attack in post op after the surgery and that was only a piece of the problem, he also has had reduced Kidney function. His Kidneys are now working acceptibley well for an old timer but his BP remains uncontrolled. Oddly enough it is at night when we leave him to rest that it spikes up in the low 200's which sure as heck ain't good when you are recovering from a heart attack.


He needs to get out of there. Is there a way he can have home health care? Even an extended care facility for a few weeks might be a better situation, more restful. He's probably scared to death (literally) to be there alone.
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Re: Preventable medical crisis'

Unread postby Tanada » Sun 31 May 2009, 20:52:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'T')hank you all for the support, turns out Dad had a heart attack in post op after the surgery and that was only a piece of the problem, he also has had reduced Kidney function. His Kidneys are now working acceptibley well for an old timer but his BP remains uncontrolled. Oddly enough it is at night when we leave him to rest that it spikes up in the low 200's which sure as heck ain't good when you are recovering from a heart attack.


He needs to get out of there. Is there a way he can have home health care? Even an extended care facility for a few weeks might be a better situation, more restful. He's probably scared to death (literally) to be there alone.


Its very complicated, his girlfriend lives with him and has advancing alzheimer's partially worsened by a closed head injury in a car accident 7 years ago. Attempting to care for her with minimal help from her live in daughter puts a great deal of stress on him, a lot more than he will ever admit too. They are 'in love' but now neither of them is able to help the other, but she does not realize it. When he had a stroke about 18 months ago she was found walking up and down the road without proper gear in mid winter because she didn't know what to do and panic set in. She worked assisted living before her accident and still thinks she knows better than doctors how to take care of him. He still has his wits and his pride but his stubborn streak and very poor health at the moment are a very bad combination. Its been a week and they still can't maintain his bp under 170, it has been 190-209 all but one of the times I saw it taken since Tuesday last week. They live in the country a half mile off the asphault on a gravel road that my great grandfather built in 1911 that is two stories tall. He can't stand under his own power but is sure he can go home real soon now. He has been on O2 for all week because his O2 sat rate falls like a rock every time they take him off of it.
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Re: Preventable medical crisis'

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Mon 01 Jun 2009, 13:14:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', 'T')hank you all for the support, turns out Dad had a heart attack in post op after the surgery and that was only a piece of the problem, he also has had reduced Kidney function. His Kidneys are now working acceptibley well for an old timer but his BP remains uncontrolled. Oddly enough it is at night when we leave him to rest that it spikes up in the low 200's which sure as heck ain't good when you are recovering from a heart attack.


He needs to get out of there. Is there a way he can have home health care? Even an extended care facility for a few weeks might be a better situation, more restful. He's probably scared to death (literally) to be there alone.


Its very complicated, his girlfriend lives with him and has advancing alzheimer's partially worsened by a closed head injury in a car accident 7 years ago. Attempting to care for her with minimal help from her live in daughter puts a great deal of stress on him, a lot more than he will ever admit too. They are 'in love' but now neither of them is able to help the other, but she does not realize it. When he had a stroke about 18 months ago she was found walking up and down the road without proper gear in mid winter because she didn't know what to do and panic set in. She worked assisted living before her accident and still thinks she knows better than doctors how to take care of him. He still has his wits and his pride but his stubborn streak and very poor health at the moment are a very bad combination. Its been a week and they still can't maintain his bp under 170, it has been 190-209 all but one of the times I saw it taken since Tuesday last week. They live in the country a half mile off the asphault on a gravel road that my great grandfather built in 1911 that is two stories tall. He can't stand under his own power but is sure he can go home real soon now. He has been on O2 for all week because his O2 sat rate falls like a rock every time they take him off of it.


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I'm sorry this is happening, and if I added to it by my suggestions. That sounds like a really difficult situation to be in.
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Re: Preventable medical crisis'

Unread postby bodigami » Tue 04 Aug 2009, 12:05:13

Tanada, i hope your beloved ones have a nice rebirth when they die.
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