[outcast]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he work is hard, but we're going to need 50 million new farmers soon.

[outcast]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'T')he best thing about this is that you know. Ignore the naysayers like Outcast if you care as much as you say about survival. dieoff is coming; if we replicate what every other organism does in this situation most of us will be wiped out. If you want to be positivistic listen to Tanada and some of the other more enlightened utopians not the ones saying 'It's all goona be fine.' Science is the only way out of this mess and unforunately science is not gaining traction against the mud of the current paradigm.
I congratulate you on your courage and wherewithal.

[SeaGypsy]

How much reading have you done outcast? This is not a doomsday cult it is rock hard unpopular science. Please don't be offended by my comment but the young man is looking for solid advice in a serious situation; telling him he's being illiogical is ill informed and confusing the facts with your choice to ignore them. (Unless you just don't know better) Read dieoff.org to get the science behind what is really going on. Terrible title but it's totally appropriate to the situation.

[outcast]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')all me crazy but I think this young woman would like her questions answered rather than having her thread hijacked by debating whether or not peak oil is real. There are other forums for that.

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')all me crazy but I think this young woman would like her questions answered rather than having her thread hijacked by debating whether or not peak oil is real. There are other forums for that.

[Revi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he work is hard, but we're going to need 50 million new farmers soon.

[outcast]

So Prophet Heinberg states that because of PO and declining fossil fuels, we suddenly can't farm with machines and fertilizer.........huh?


Obviously he never considered that we CAN have electric farm machinery, an idea that actually goes back to the mid to late 19th century.


We do have the ability to make fertilizer from other sources too


So that's one myth totally debunked, got anymore?

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', 'S')o Prophet Heinberg states that because of PO and declining fossil fuels, we suddenly can't farm with machines and fertilizer.........huh?


Obviously he never considered that we CAN have electric farm machinery, an idea that actually goes back to the mid to late 19th century.


We do have the ability to make fertilizer from other sources too


So that's one myth totally debunked, got anymore?

[outcast]

We have a new-ish person trying to make plans for the future. Nothing wrong with that, but quite frankly to say "head for the hills" based on some BS written by cranks like Heinburg isn't ethical (which is based on inaccurate info and bad reasoning which is quite easy to debunk). To plan ahead accurately one needs accurate estimations of what will happen, otherwise it is a waste, and I think she deserves better than that. Don't you?

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', 'S')o Prophet Heinberg states that because of PO and declining fossil fuels, we suddenly can't farm with machines and fertilizer.........huh?


Obviously he never considered that we CAN have electric farm machinery, an idea that actually goes back to the mid to late 19th century.


We do have the ability to make fertilizer from other sources too


So that's one myth totally debunked, got anymore?

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', '
')BS written by cranks like Heinburg

[outcast]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', '
')BS written by cranks like Heinburg

[outcast]

Just being your personal favorite doesn't make the prophet any more right.

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', 'J')ust being your personal favorite doesn't make the prophet any more right.

[patience]

I gotta figure out how to put someone on "ignore". This thread is polluted beyond belief. The girl had legitimate questions and made them clear. Why not respect that?

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('patience', 'I') gotta figure out how to put someone on "ignore". This thread is polluted beyond belief. The girl had legitimate questions and made them clear. Why not respect that?

[bodigami]

...a link to the original thread will be useful.