THE Israel Thread pt 4 (merged)

by **jasonraymondson** » Tue 24 Mar 2009, 01:37:15

Here is another article where even the Israely soldiers referred to what they were doing was cold blooded murder.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 5966.story

and another

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 939611.ece

Link to a thread created by Jotapay
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=51931
Read efarmers post (brilliant analysis of our responsiblity)

by **jasonraymondson** » Tue 24 Mar 2009, 01:38:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'B')lack eye for Israel after UN report detailing to many human rights violations to even list.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/03/ ... index.html

by **eastbay** » Tue 24 Mar 2009, 01:41:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'B')lack eye for Israel after UN report detailing to many human rights violations to even list.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/03/ ... index.html

by **jasonraymondson** » Tue 24 Mar 2009, 01:44:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '
')Like it or not that's the way it is heathen. Join the program or you'll burn too. And quit busting on the Israeli's or you'll head straight to the Very Center of the Fire.

by **jasonraymondson** » Tue 24 Mar 2009, 01:55:17

This isn't hall of flames material.. This is the truth. The truth should be forced upon everyone, and not hid away to protect those that are to cowardly to face it.

by **Munqi** » Tue 24 Mar 2009, 07:34:03

"Also cited were "credible reports" that accused Hamas, the militant Palestinian group that runs Gaza, of using human shields and placing civilians at risk."

So im just curious. Why is the IDF the monster and hamas the brave freedom fighters?

Im not defending IDF nor am i defending Israel as a whole. I just dont see why the palestinians/hamas are innocent either.

by **3aidlillahi** » Tue 24 Mar 2009, 08:31:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', '&')quot;Also cited were "credible reports" that accused Hamas, the militant Palestinian group that runs Gaza, of using human shields and placing civilians at risk."

So im just curious. Why is the IDF the monster and hamas the brave freedom fighters?

Im not defending IDF nor am i defending Israel as a whole. I just dont see why the palestinians/hamas are innocent either.

by **Munqi** » Tue 24 Mar 2009, 08:38:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('3aidlillahi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', '&')quot;Also cited were "credible reports" that accused Hamas, the militant Palestinian group that runs Gaza, of using human shields and placing civilians at risk."

So im just curious. Why is the IDF the monster and hamas the brave freedom fighters?

Im not defending IDF nor am i defending Israel as a whole. I just dont see why the palestinians/hamas are innocent either.

by **Fishman** » Tue 24 Mar 2009, 09:15:07

"Also cited were "credible reports" that accused Hamas, the militant Palestinian group that runs Gaza, of using human shields and placing civilians at risk.

But it singled out the Israelis for more sweeping criticism."

Now why would they do this? Perhaps a bias?

"They'll get a 'pass' on this, as usual, because they have a Holy Calling"
Clearly you are speaking of Hamas, right?
The difference, Israel will evaluate the situation, try to correct the issues, their soldiers even admitted problems, Hamas will celebrate their attrocities, clear and simple.

by **AgentR** » Tue 24 Mar 2009, 09:22:30

Let me suggest an alternative viewpoint for those who so very much hate Israel to consider:

When two evil parties engage in a battle for survival, in an area of some importance to your own self interests; do you hope the one that occasionally or accidentally acts in concert with your interests wins, or do you want the one that would love nothing better than to hunt you down like a dog and slit your throat to win?

Seems a simple enough choice to me.

by **jasonraymondson** » Tue 24 Mar 2009, 15:18:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', 'L')et me suggest an alternative viewpoint for those who so very much hate Israel to consider:

When two evil parties engage in a battle for survival, in an area of some importance to your own self interests; do you hope the one that occasionally or accidentally acts in concert with your interests wins, or do you want the one that would love nothing better than to hunt you down like a dog and slit your throat to win?

Seems a simple enough choice to me.

by **kam3Oen** » Sun 29 Mar 2009, 06:30:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', 'N')o they are not saying it out loud. But the way some people always demonize the israeli side of the conflict makes me believe that they really dont see any flaws with the palestinian side. Or when was the last time you saw a thread here about the atrocities that hamas does?

by **Quinny** » Sun 29 Mar 2009, 07:16:55

Gerald Kaufman says it all really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwhrHoPv5Ok

by **TheAntiDoomer** » Tue 31 Mar 2009, 09:48:30

Wasn't sure where else to post yet another gas discovery by Isreal!

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/energy/noble-energy-announces-second-natural-gas-discovery-offshore-israel-dalit/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')OUSTON, March 30, 2009 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ ----Noble Energy, Inc. (NYSE: NBL: 53.15, 0.9, 1.72%) announced today a natural gas discovery at the Dalit prospect in the Michal license, offshore Israel. Located in approximately 4,500 feet of water and 30 miles offshore, the well was drilled to a depth of 12,000 feet. Formation logs identified more than 110 feet of net pay in a high-quality reservoir. Dalit represents the Company's second subsalt, lower-Miocene discovery in the underexplored Levantine basin.

by **rangerone314** » Thu 23 Apr 2009, 12:28:20

Best case scenario for a Middle East: a massive asteroid about to hit the Earth breaks apart over the Middle East and shatters into thousands of smaller pieces, and flattens the Middle East from Morocco to Pakistan.

Of course the survivors would probably continue the fight from the rubble.

by **Ferretlover** » Thu 23 Apr 2009, 21:06:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rangerone314', 'O')f course the survivors would probably continue the fight from the rubble.

by **jasonraymondson** » Fri 24 Apr 2009, 02:33:35

Why do you think these people fight?

Are you so arrogant as to believe that you are better than them? Superior?

by **Cid_Yama** » Thu 14 May 2009, 09:28:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U').S. President Barack Obama has told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu not to "surprise the U.S. with an Israeli military operation against Iran," an Israeli newspaper reported Thursday.
Haaretz reported that the message, which reflects Washington's concern over the possibility of independent and uncoordinated actions by Israel directed at Iran, was conveyed by "a senior American official who met in Israel with Netanyahu, ministers and other senior officials."
The newspaper said Obama did not wait for a meeting with Netanyahu set for May 18 and added that the U.S. concerns could have been reinforced by the Israeli prime minister's repeated statements that he was determined to prevent Iran obtaining nuclear weapons.

by **mefistofeles** » Mon 06 Jul 2009, 00:41:27

It's Joe Biden and even then he made a very oblique comment about Israel protecting it's interests. Besides let's face if the Israelis want to do this they'll figure out a way. If the a President as Pro Israel as George Bush would tell this Israelis no it's hard to imagine someone like Obama saying yes.