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Re: Punch-Drunk? '60 Minutes' interview

Unread postby Fishman » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 10:07:43

Excellent comeback PeS, I noticed you didn't challenge the comment that he sucks at the job. For a little clarity of my definition of peak lets look at the polls
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... cking_poll
Darn that disapproval rate is skyrocketing in just what, 60+ day. Good job!!
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Re: Obama giggles and laughs about US economic downturn

Unread postby Jotapay » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 10:07:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'O')bama's probably thinking, "Oh man I actually have to work to SOLVE this mess, where Bush just got to sell out the country, let Cheney boss him around, and let his friends cash out....."


If you want my opinion on that, I think Bush and Cheney are mass murderers and are guilty of treason. Obama should be bringing the full weight of the justice department against them. There are so many things they could be prosecuted for, the latest of which is Cheney's apparent world-wide death squads. That's right, death squads. The UN should go after the pair for war crimes.

At least Obama hasn't sunk to the level of Bush's depravity yet.
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Re: Punch-Drunk? '60 Minutes' interview

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 10:35:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', 'E')xcellent comeback PeS, I noticed you didn't challenge the comment that he sucks at the job. For a little clarity of my definition of peak lets look at the polls
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... cking_poll
Darn that disapproval rate is skyrocketing in just what, 60+ day. Good job!!


According to Rasmussen, Cheney won in a landslide
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Re: Obama giggles and laughs about US economic downturn

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 10:41:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'O')bama's probably thinking, "Oh man I actually have to work to SOLVE this mess, where Bush just got to sell out the country, let Cheney boss him around, and let his friends cash out....."


If you want my opinion on that, I think Bush and Cheney are mass murderers and are guilty of treason. Obama should be bringing the full weight of the justice department against them. There are so many things they could be prosecuted for, the latest of which is Cheney's apparent world-wide death squads. That's right, death squads. The UN should go after the pair for war crimes.

At least Obama hasn't sunk to the level of Bush's depravity yet.


There was immense levels of international death squad activity under Reagan, While he slept, the neocon cabal launched. To fund their adventures, our intelligence agencies became an integral part of the international drug trade.

I often wonder if all that drug smuggling did not become obsolete in the financial bubble. The CIA has (had) its own investment company, I forget the name but it was no secret in the DC area.
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Re: Obama giggles and laughs about US economic downturn

Unread postby Jotapay » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 11:01:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'I') often wonder if all that drug smuggling did not become obsolete in the financial bubble. The CIA has (had) its own investment company, I forget the name but it was no secret in the DC area.


The CIA loves to smuggle and deal drugs. A plane crashed last year in Mexico full of cocaine. The only problem is that the plane's call letters were known to belong to a CIA plane which ferried cargo back and forth from the USA to Guantanamo in Cuba.

Proof:
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j6Q ... -xUcQEZbVg

Many formers administration officials, military personnel and former CIA employees have gone on record verifying these claims about the CIA and their relationship with drugs. One of the reasons why this relationship works is that bankers love, love, love all that drug money. It's very profitable for banks that deposit and launder it.
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Re: Obama giggles and laughs about US economic downturn

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 11:08:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '
')Many formers administration officials, military personnel and former CIA employees have gone on record verifying these claims about the CIA and their relationship with drugs. One of the reasons why this relationship works is that bankers love, love, love all that drug money. It's very profitable for banks that deposit and launder it.


The story of the drug plane crash was pretty funny because every story reported less and less and less drugs as the officials took their cuts.

A lot of the guys connected to Bush administration scandals and especially Duke Cunningham made their bones flying guns and drugs for the CIA during the Reagan years. TPM has a lot of this info, and it's no secret because some of them have finally been sent to prison.
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Re: Punch-Drunk? '60 Minutes' interview

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 11:24:14

Does this graph look familiar to people?

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The american public are now firmly in the anger stage. You know, the tea party guys and Chuck Norris and conservative talk radio. Fixating on Obama's mild temperament is a useless distraction. It's within an atmosphere of anger that hysterical fist-pounders like Hitler come to power and that just doesn't end well.
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Re: Punch-Drunk? '60 Minutes' interview

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 11:35:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'O')bama's mild temperament ....


Laughing about the economic downturn hurting millions of Americans isn't an example of a "mild temperment." Obama was acting like he was "punch-drunk, i.e. concussed, out of it, and loopy.
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Re: Obama giggles and laughs about US economic downturn

Unread postby like_the_dinosaurs » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 11:47:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'O')bama was on 60 minutes, giggling and laughing about the economic downturn.

He was so giggly that the 60 minutes person asked him "are you punch-drunk?"

is Obama punch-drunk?

IMHO, he wasn't punch-drunk. He just missed his teleprompter.



Liberals love that sort of thing. Poking fun at the less fortunate and laughing at the plight of those hit by the economy or joking about the physically or mentally less fortunate is cool as long as you're The War Maniac in Chief. He can do and say and make as much war as he wants whenever he wants and liberals will still kowtow to him.

He could eat a live chicken feathers and all on national TV and liberals would smile and talk about how cute it was.


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Re: Punch-Drunk? '60 Minutes' interview

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 11:50:04

PRESIDENT OBAMA:

I just want to say that— the only thing less popular than putting money into banks is putting money (LAUGHS) into the auto industry. So—

STEVE KROFT:

18 percent are in favor.

PRESIDENT OBAMA:

(LAUGHS) That’s—

STEVE KROFT:

Seventy-six percent against.

PRESIDENT OBAMA:

It— it— it’s not a high number.

STEVE KROFT:

You’re sitting here. And you’re— you are laughing. You are laughing about some of these problems. Are people going to look at this and say, "I mean, he’s sitting there just making jokes about (LAUGHTER) money—” How do you deal with— I mean, wh— explain -

PRESIDENT OBAMA:

Well—

STEVE KROFT:

—the mood and your laughter.

PRESIDENT OBAMA:

Yeah, I mean, there’s got to be—

STEVE KROFT:

Are you punch drunk?

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Obama is WAY over his head here. He knows next to nothing about economics...and he's never run any kind of government or private business in his life....the only things he has done in his short political life are write earmarks, raise taxes, and fudge the issues, and thats what he is doing as president.
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Re: Punch-Drunk? '60 Minutes' interview

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 12:06:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')Obama is WAY over his head here. He knows next to nothing about economics...and he's never run any kind of government or private business in his life....the only things he has done in his short political life are write earmarks, raise taxes, and fudge the issues, and thats what he is doing as president.


Is he supposed to keep the car and banking industry afloat, or should he have pulled the plug on the banks his first week in office? Would you support an immediate hard crash scenario proposed by many Republicans? Only a year ago were telling us everything was rosy, so I'm not sure they have the wisdom to rec euthanasia now, or that they have given any thought about what happens after that, except that it will involve more more monkey like hooting, masturbating, and throwing feces.

I'm just wondering where you were on any of this since you seem to have no clue one way or the other,
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Re: Obama giggles and laughs about US economic downturn

Unread postby Munqi » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 12:29:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'O')bama was on 60 minutes, giggling and laughing about the economic downturn.

He was so giggly that the 60 minutes person asked him "are you punch-drunk?"

is Obama punch-drunk?

IMHO, he wasn't punch-drunk. He just missed his teleprompter.



Liberals love that sort of thing. Poking fun at the less fortunate and laughing at the plight of those hit by the economy or joking about the physically or mentally less fortunate is cool as long as you're The War Maniac in Chief. He can do and say and make as much war as he wants whenever he wants and liberals will still kowtow to him.



He could eat a live chicken feathers and all on national TV and liberals would smile and talk about how cute it was.


Who are these liberals you speak off? Im dying to now. They sound like really unpleasant people. :roll:
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Re: Punch-Drunk? '60 Minutes' interview

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 12:40:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')Obama is WAY over his head here. He knows next to nothing about economics...and he's never run any kind of government or private business in his life....the only things he has done in his short political life are write earmarks, raise taxes, and fudge the issues, and thats what he is doing as president.


Is he supposed to keep the car and banking industry afloat, or should he have pulled the plug on the banks his first week in office? ..... I'm just wondering where you were on any of this.....,


Instead of focussing on the economy from day one in office, Obama is spending much of his time trying to pass healthcare, carbon taxes, giant porkulus bills etc. The economy should be JOB #1 for Obama.

Bill Clinton is a smart man. He "focussed on the economy like a laser" and we had a good economy. Obama isn't a stupid man, but he's been stupid on the economy. He is trying to do too many other things like healthcare, carbon taxes, condom subsidies, mob museums, casino bailouts, etc. etc., and as a result he isn't focussed on the economy. Obama doesn't have any experience at all in economic matters, and he really should spend a little time to learn something about it rather then just reading what is on his teleprompter. Then, when he gets into a question and answer session on the economy, he won't have to giggle and look loopy and "punch-drunk" when basic economic questions arise. :mrgreen:
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Re: Punch-Drunk? '60 Minutes' interview

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 12:56:07

Here's the latest from tax-cheat Geithner.

"The US Treasury does not know whether it will need more federal funds to stabilize the US financial system"

Well, if he doesn't know who DOES know? Obama doesn't know....he'd just giggle if you asked him about it.

IMHO, Obama should find somebody who knows how the economy works and make that person the treasury secretary instead of Geithner the tax cheat.
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Re: Obama giggles and laughs about US economic downturn

Unread postby eastbay » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 13:11:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Munqi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'O')bama was on 60 minutes, giggling and laughing about the economic downturn.

He was so giggly that the 60 minutes person asked him "are you punch-drunk?"

is Obama punch-drunk?

IMHO, he wasn't punch-drunk. He just missed his teleprompter.



Liberals love that sort of thing. Poking fun at the less fortunate and laughing at the plight of those hit by the economy or joking about the physically or mentally less fortunate is cool as long as you're The War Maniac in Chief. He can do and say and make as much war as he wants whenever he wants and liberals will still kowtow to him.



He could eat a live chicken feathers and all on national TV and liberals would smile and talk about how cute it was.


Who are these liberals you speak off? Im dying to now. They sound like really unpleasant people. :roll:


Oh, you're entirely wrong about that. Liberals are mostly good and well intentioned people offering heart wrenching rationale for their craving for more war and all that 'support Obama' nonsense. It's just that they've been led astray.
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Re: Punch-Drunk? '60 Minutes' interview

Unread postby AgentR » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 13:15:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'I')s he supposed to keep the car and banking industry afloat, or should he have pulled the plug on the banks his first week in office? Would you support an immediate hard crash scenario proposed by many Republicans?


I tend to think opponents overblow how much "crashiness" there would be as a result. Yeah, it'd be messy for a few months; but we are locking ourselves into a lost decade trying to keep failed businesses alive that have no real claim to survival. Their balance sheets are just that bad. They need to be taken off life support and allowed to die, so their assets and junk can be bought or tossed as appropriate, and someone with half a brain can take over making cars and mortgage loans.
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Re: Punch-Drunk? '60 Minutes' interview

Unread postby Jotapay » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 13:34:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', 'I') tend to think opponents overblow how much "crashiness" there would be as a result. Yeah, it'd be messy for a few months; but we are locking ourselves into a lost decade trying to keep failed businesses alive that have no real claim to survival.


True. There are plenty of smaller regional banks who are just fine. They could have liquidated the large banks and given the business to the smaller regional banks. It would have been a headache for a while but it would have been better for the economy in the long run.
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Re: Punch-Drunk? '60 Minutes' interview

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 13:57:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', 'I') tend to think opponents overblow how much "crashiness" there would be as a result. Yeah, it'd be messy for a few months; but we are locking ourselves into a lost decade trying to keep failed businesses alive that have no real claim to survival.


True. There are plenty of smaller regional banks who are just fine. They could have liquidated the large banks and given the business to the smaller regional banks. It would have been a headache for a while but it would have been better for the economy in the long run.


They also could've nationalized the failing banks, as leftist economist Paul Krugman wanted to do, or eliminated the "mark-to-market" rule as rightist economists at Forbes wanted to do.

Instead, we are going to borrow trillions from China and print trillions more so we can continue our two wars and also begin massive pork-barrel spending in a major recession. Whoopee!
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Re: Punch-Drunk? '60 Minutes' interview

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 14:40:11

Repubs are just as bad or worse.........
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Re: Punch-Drunk? '60 Minutes' interview

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 23 Mar 2009, 15:00:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '
')I tend to think opponents overblow how much "crashiness" there would be as a result. Yeah, it'd be messy for a few months.


Define "messy for a few months".

The way I see it, we've been in credit overshoot as soon as all those liar loans were signed and there was no way to get out of this without some form of doom insuing, something certainly worse than "messy for a few months". If Obama is doing nothing more than pushing it off for a year or two, it at least gives me a few more days of normalcy and some prep time. But the idea that we could just Schiff our way out of this and it wouldn't be that bad, well I think it WOULD have been that bad.
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