[Micki]

Nothing new to us.
Fluoride became first popular in the Nazi concentration camps and the gulags and it was not to keep their teeth strong but to keep the inmated docile.
Any coinsidence that it is nations like USA, UK and Australia that is enforcing mandatory medication through the drinking water?

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS108377%2B02-Jan-2008%2BPRN20080102
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'o')ver-consumption of fluoride can raise the risks of disorders affecting teeth,
bones, the brain and the thyroid gland ...
"Fluoride, the most consumed drug in the USA, is deliberately added to 2/3 of
public water supplies theoretically to reduce tooth decay, but with no
scientifically-valid evidence proving safety or effectiveness," says lawyer
Paul Beeber, President, New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation.

Fagin, award-wining environmental reporter and Director of New York
University's Science, Health and Environmental Reporting Program, writes,
"There is no universally accepted optimal level for daily intake of fluoride."
Some researchers even wonder whether the 1 mg/L added into drinking water is
too much, reports Fagin.
.
National Research Council
(NRC) committee "concluded that fluoride can subtly alter endocrine function,
especially in the thyroid -- the gland that produces hormones regulating
growth and metabolism,.
.
Fagin quotes John Doull, professor emeritus of pharmacology and toxicology at
the University of Kansas Medical Center, who chaired the NRC committee thusly,
"The thyroid changes do worry me."
.
"a series of epidemiological studies in China have associated
high fluoride exposures with lower IQ."

"(E)pidemiological studies and tests on lab animals suggest that high fluoride
exposure increases the risk of bone fracture, especially in vulnerable
populations such as the elderly and diabetics
.
Over 1200 professionals urge Congress to cease water fluoridation and conduct
Congressional hearings because scientific evidence indicates fluoridation is
ineffective and has serious health risks. Support them; write your
representative here: link

[alokin]

There are more things added to our water like chlorine, I'm not sure which one is worse. Aren't there any fluoride allergics (if there are allergies against milk bread watermelon peanuts we might find fluoride allergics which bring the fluoridation down.
Have to add water filters on my shopping list (QLD), however I don't like these non reusable things.

Do you have more evidence what the Nazis wanted with the fluoride?

[Pretorian]

I've read plenty about Gulag have family died there but never heard of the m using fluoride. I know Soviet Army used bromine to depress sexual activity of soldiers in remote locations though

[alokin]

Micky, do you think than, that our gov. does the fluoridation with another aim than health of teeth or that they just don't get it? I wonder why QLD gov. does not introduce teeth brushing after lunch and teach a bit more the parents what to do about oral health. Our neighbour kids are still allowed to have lollies cordial and juice between meals.

[Micki]

Yes there are people allergic to fluoride.
When i was reading up on the introduction of fluoride to QLD water (think Townsville already has it though) I saw some post from a lady who is allergic and very bothered about the introduction in QLD.

I don't know what the underlying push for this is (just profit, to make people docile, profitable way of getting rid of chemical waste or all of it?) but the QLD campaign I've seen bears all the hallmarks of big business lobbying and campaigning. Someone gets paid for putting that stuff into the water.
The websites that I found related to QLD did not have any discussion forums or any contact details.
I guess it is like with Aphartame, that was prohibited for 16 years until Rumsfeld managed to lobby for it to be approved in food.

When they wanted to introduce fluoride in the drinking water in Geelong there was protests enough to cancel the plans. That is what you need to organise in QLD.
Heck there isn't even any proof fluoride is really good for the teeth as in the long run they go brittle.
If you are new to the subject try to find a film called the fluoride deception. There was massive criticism against fluoridating drinking water from medial groups. Now they have been quited down.

Regarding the concentration camps, I haven't got the first hand source for you but there are a number of sites pointing to a book called "The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben" written by Joseph Borkin.
What makes this a bit more interesting is that Joseph Borkin was the chief of the Patent and Cartel section of the Antitrust Division of the Department of Justice in Washington, and was responsible for the wartime investigation and prosecution of the cartels dominated by I. G. Farben.

You can find some more info here about fluoridation in Germany and later Sovjet;
http://www.preferrednetwork.com/FLUORIDE_STUPIDITY.htm

[jasonraymondson]

I grew up as a kid having to swish that shit twice a week in elementary school. It was in my tooth paste, we had a floride rinse at home... and if this is me being docile...

holy shit I would have otherwise grown up to be a terrorist.

[Schmuto]

Oh lord.

Nothing screams "I don't know anything about science" more than the contention that flouridated water is a government brain control mechanism.

Makes the Peak Oil backdrop seem unscientific and hysterical.

You want to know what Fl does for your teeth?

Go find the thread on the chick who needs two teeth pulled.

You want to know what FL does for teeth? Come out to where I live where everybody is on well water. Teeth are a horror show.

And they're as placid and sheepish as you're going to find in any suburb.

Seriously, the notion that people's brains are being controlled by flourine is so retarded so as to be above the L on the forehead mark.

[Jotapay]

So which NWO agency/corporation do you work for?

What about all the studies cited on this site, just for starters?
http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', 'O')h lord.

Nothing screams "I don't know anything about science" more than the contention that flouridated water is a government brain control mechanism.

Makes the Peak Oil backdrop seem unscientific and hysterical.

You want to know what Fl does for your teeth?

Go find the thread on the chick who needs two teeth pulled.

You want to know what FL does for teeth? Come out to where I live where everybody is on well water. Teeth are a horror show.

And they're as placid and sheepish as you're going to find in any suburb.

Seriously, the notion that people's brains are being controlled by flourine is so retarded so as to be above the L on the forehead mark.

[Micki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schmuto', 'O')h lord.

Nothing screams "I don't know anything about science" more than the contention that flouridated water is a government brain control mechanism.

Makes the Peak Oil backdrop seem unscientific and hysterical.

You want to know what Fl does for your teeth?

Go find the thread on the chick who needs two teeth pulled.

You want to know what FL does for teeth? Come out to where I live where everybody is on well water. Teeth are a horror show.

And they're as placid and sheepish as you're going to find in any suburb.

Seriously, the notion that people's brains are being controlled by flourine is so retarded so as to be above the L on the forehead mark.

[da23]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Micki', 'w')here the alternative for many is to keep buying bottled water that costs more than petrol does.

[frankthetank]

Just another reason for me to drink Mississippi River water...

[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'J')ust another reason for me to drink Mississippi River water...

[alokin]

As far as I know, dentists in Germany do not tell anymore to give fluoride tablets to babies, but they advocate putting fluoride on your teeth. I sometimes use high fluoride toothpaste and I think it helps, but drinking that stuff this is something different!

I guess the best is silently filtering the water and getting the chlorine out as well, but the disadvantage is that minerals are lost as well.

Rich and environmentally unconscious people may buy bottled water, this makes no sense.

[Somebody]

The anti-fluoride campaign in Queensland is quite interesting. Has there actually been any proposals to take it out of the water in other states as well?

Remember seeing a poster (you know the sort) in a public toilet in Brisbane showing how every other state plus some bits of QLD has had it for years so it would just be 'bringing SEQ into line', as the justification.

[Micki]

Only pockets of QLD, like Townsville, has had the water fluoridated.
http://www.fluoridationqld.com/
As you can see this is a pure one-sided propaganda site also without forum.

There are however a number of links to contacts. I suggest you, like me, check out those contact sites and do regular mailouts of news and facts about the dangers of fluoride.
If you for instance use Outlook, make an appointment repeating with certain frequency. In that appointment you put the email addresses (and URLS for where there are contact forms) and send them
mail after mail.
In the same appointment you can keep track of what you sent and ideas of what to send. That will make the task real easy.



Some more articles on fluoride in Australia;
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~fluoride/2006%20Final%20Website%20Files/a_study_of_fluoridation_confusion.htm