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Re: Help with a speech about how to solve the economic crisi

Unread postby Kristen » Fri 23 Jan 2009, 01:36:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nero', 'T')here is no "crisis" if by "crisis" you mean a sudden problem that needs to be addressed quickly. The economic problems have been compounding for a generation while we have delayed working our way out of debt. The deleveraging that is going on right now is painful but necessary.

Talk about solutions to the "financial crisis" are mostly about how to quickly halt the deleveraging which is exactly the opposite to what we need to do. The government needs to speed up the write downs and facilitate the clearing out of the hard to price assets that are stinking up the banker's books. Speed up the process of forclosure; speed up bankruptcy; then speed it up even further by devaluing the currency. Once the debts are mostly destroyed by either write-downs or by being paid off with a devalued currency, then people will be able to profitably start rebuilding the financial industry.

This may take a few years to do, and it will be very painful to equity and debt holders who will see their false paper profits disappear as if they had invested with Madoff; but it will in the end benefit people who work for a living, the very people who have failed to benefit from the last 20 years of productivity growth.


Well I suppose I could call it the "Economic quagmire" or "Economic Anomaly." Letting it happen is just fine, but we still will need a new system to avoid such an "Anomaly" again.
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Re: Help with a speech about how to solve the economic crisi

Unread postby Kristen » Fri 23 Jan 2009, 01:40:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('evilgenius', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kristen', 'D')ear Forum members,

I have to give a persuasive speech on how to solve the economic crisis but I don't know where to start. Ban the federal reserve? new currencies? calling debt even and making it a public utility are my three main points I've decided so far. What do you think?

-Kristen

No, no, and no is what I think.

How about take back the Fed, seek rational equilibrium in currencies and recognize that deflation swallows anyone that is in debt.

So kick the monetarists to the sidelines but still listen to them to keep you from overstepping. Follow Keynes' original proposal for Bretton Woods. Let go of the myth that inflation is the only outcome from economic activity. Do those points sound like any kind of a start?


Well as I responded to another, we could make the fed an a group of advisers for the treasurer. the other two sound good.
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Re: Help with a speech about how to solve the economic crisi

Unread postby Kristen » Fri 23 Jan 2009, 01:46:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'L')et me boil it down for you:

1. Gold standard.
2. 100% reserve banking.

BTW, economics is a social science. Attempts to treat it mathematically only obscures the principles. What would you rather have, an apple or an orange? See Hayek's Nobel acceptance speech, "The Pretense Of Knowledge".


I would be willing to reestablish a gold standard as long as there's not an abudance of it still left to be mined. Soon they'll be mining as fast as they are printing.

Econ is totally mathematical. For example there are many mathematical formulas invovled in finding the elastic demand, and many others, sorry its late and my brains been overprocessing since this morning.
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Re: Help with a speech about how to solve the economic crisi

Unread postby Kristen » Fri 23 Jan 2009, 01:51:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pablonite', 'H')ello Kristen.

I would think just giving a persuasive speech on the "economic crises" leaving out the "how to solve" is more...persuasive.

"Your" ideas for solving the "crises" have been bandied about but you being a student and seeing the monetary system for what it is...

Debt is a weapon and interest is the ammunition so operating inside a monetary system a student is just as likely a target as a third world country.

A mass awakening to what should be known as economic slavery or some such term needs to happen years before the problem can be solved. Do you think the big hands holding the debt gun are just going to put it down because you want to solve a problem?

By the way, those big hands most likely have a very firm grip on your educational institution which is why most of your classmates will be completely ignorant of how their monetary system even works. A kick in the arse is all your really aiming for.


You're absolutely right. All people in my age bracket seem to care about is facebook and crap,, more crap,,then a few more brown nuggets, and then, all done! I'm the only female in the class of about 45, so its not like I could possibly feel any less alienated then I already do.

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Re: Help with a speech about how to solve the economic crisi

Unread postby Kristen » Fri 23 Jan 2009, 01:58:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('errorist', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'L')et me boil it down for you:

1. Gold standard.
2. 100% reserve banking.

BTW, economics is a social science. Attempts to treat it mathematically only obscures the principles. What would you rather have, an apple or an orange? See Hayek's Nobel acceptance speech, "The Pretense Of Knowledge".


Let's ban mathematic. This nasty language allows no social engineering and has tendencies to backfire if used not accordingly to laws of Nature.

(0. Confiscate gold.)


Don't you mean mathematics? The Economy is measured using probability with is a mathematical formula, depending on which prob you're using. The three types are classical, emprical, and frequential.
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Re: Help with a speech about how to solve the economic crisi

Unread postby errorist » Fri 23 Jan 2009, 21:01:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kristen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('errorist', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'L')et me boil it down for you:

1. Gold standard.
2. 100% reserve banking.

BTW, economics is a social science. Attempts to treat it mathematically only obscures the principles. What would you rather have, an apple or an orange? See Hayek's Nobel acceptance speech, "The Pretense Of Knowledge".


Let's ban mathematic. This nasty language allows no social engineering and has tendencies to backfire if used not accordingly to laws of Nature.

(0. Confiscate gold.)


Don't you mean mathematics? The Economy is measured using probability with is a mathematical formula, depending on which prob you're using. The three types are classical, emprical, and frequential.


Yes. Thank you. Sometimes my keyboard does amazing things with words I type.
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