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Re: UBS Closes Americans Offshore Swiss Accounts

Unread postby bratticus » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 17:40:42

Is Swiss banking secrecy good or bad?
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Re: UBS Closes Americans Offshore Swiss Accounts

Unread postby Ferretlover » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 17:51:48

I don't know if it is good or bad (how are the Cayman banks doing?); Bet this will be a big surprise for people.
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Re: UBS Closes Americans Offshore Swiss Accounts

Unread postby bratticus » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 17:58:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', ' ')(how are the Cayman banks doing?)

Madoff and Co. might know something about that: Ariel Funds, Ltd and Gabriel Capital.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Financial News: Hedge Funds Suffered Most Revere Redemptions By David Walker WSJ January 21, 2009:

Investors pulled more money out of the hedge fund industry last year than they had injected into it in the previous three, according to a study, as managers lost 18.3% on their investments to record their worst year for almost two decades.

Against a backdrop of their worst year of returns since at least 1990, hedge funds were drained of $399 billion (EUR309.9 billion) last year, or 20% of the money they started the period with, according to preliminary analysis by U.S.

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Investors are still seeking to unbar the doors, with legal cases in the Cayman Islands and Bermuda testing managers' rights to lock investors in. ... snip ...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Famed for piety, Jacob Merkin put faith and funds in Bernie Madoff
BY DOUGLAS FEIDEN DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER January 18th 2009:

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As cash evaporated though his network of hedge funds and partnerships - Ascot Partners and Gabriel Capital Corp. in midtown, Ariel Fund Ltd. in the Cayman Islands - Merkin pocketed some $30 million in annual management fees, victims claim. ... snip ...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]List Of Entities Announcing Exposure To Madoff Investments

The following entities have announced ...
The suit names as defendants Merkin's Ariel Fund Ltd.; the fund's investment manager, Gabriel Capital Corp.; and Fortis Bank. An NYU lawyer said the school ...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Merkin Quits GMAC Post, Faces New Lawsuits FINalternatives January 12, 2009:

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Merkin closed his $1.5 billion Gabriel Capital fund last month, although a restraining order won by NYU prevents him from liquidating it or his Ariel Fund.

And the Ariel Fund may yet prompt further legal action against Merkin. Ariel Investments, a Chicago-based firm unaffiliated with Merkin, is demanding he change his fund’s name. In a cease-and-desist letter to Merkin’s Ariel Fund, Ariel Investments—which has an Ariel Fund of its own—accuses Merkin’s fund of violating several federal trademarks that give Ariel Investments the exclusive right to use “Ariel” for money-management services.... snip ...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Bernard Madoff: On the trail of Madoff's missing millions Telegraph January 21, 2009:

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Mr Cuomo, who has a fearless reputation among the Wall Street community, is seeking information from three of the fund manager's funds - Ascot Partners, which had $1.8bn of assets, and two smaller funds, Gabriel Capital and the Ariel fund. ... snip ...
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Re: UBS Closes Americans Offshore Swiss Accounts

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 18:47:49

"started last year to close cash accounts of U.S. clients holding less than 50,000 Swiss francs"

someone check me on this. it sounds like it's cracking down on clients with less than 50K Swiss francs.

does this mean it's letting the wealthier account holders continue enjoying their offshore accounts ?

an odd form of crackdown, if they are cracking down on the "middle class" clients but not the wealthier ones with bigger accounts.
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Re: UBS Closes Americans Offshore Swiss Accounts

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 23:13:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pedalling_faster', '"')started last year to close cash accounts of U.S. clients holding less than 50,000 Swiss francs"
someone check me on this. it sounds like it's cracking down on clients with less than 50K Swiss francs.
does this mean it's letting the wealthier account holders continue enjoying their offshore accounts ?
an odd form of crackdown, if they are cracking down on the "middle class" clients but not the wealthier ones with bigger accounts.

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