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Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby MonteQuest » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 01:21:14

We have bunch of them.

Number #1 has got to be:

1. Abiotic oil

Followed closely by:

2. Hydrogen is a source of energy.

And:

3. You can have growth without using energy.

I have more, but help me out.
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby Homesteader » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 01:32:42

4. Technology will save the day.

5. Atmospheric C02 is not linked to global warming.

6. The planet is cooling.
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby Pretorian » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 01:36:17

7. We are not going to the ass?
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby mos6507 » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 01:38:37

8. Peak oil caused the credit crisis.
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby MonteQuest » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 01:46:17

9. In nature, there is such a thing as "waste."
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 02:51:03

11. "All we gotta do is just hook up some of these nice windmills and plug in some of those solar cells over there, and the US will be energy independent."
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby Narz » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 02:52:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '3'). You can have growth without using energy.

You can have growth with less energy. Certainly not without any energy at all. You can't do anything with no energy at all. You ever hang out with one of those chronic fatigue syndrome people? They can't get anything done. :(
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby seldom_seen » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 04:48:56

13. Energy and ecology have no influence on the economy. The economy exists in a hyperbaric vacuum chamber. The only thing that changes the economy is when economists push buttons and pull levers.

13.5. An omnipotent and benevolent force called "they" is looking out for our energy needs. They will come up with something.
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby katkinkate » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 04:54:56

14. Human life and society is separate and independent from the natural world.
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby seldom_seen » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 05:02:05

15. Technology equals energy.
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby mos6507 » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 11:14:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', '1')3.5. An omnipotent and benevolent force called "they" is looking out for our energy needs. They will come up with something.

On the other extreme:

13.6 An omnipotent and malevolent force called "they" is playing out some global conspiracy. Everything bad that happens in the world is due to "them". Nobody need take personal responsibility for their own individual failures and misery as long as they can point to "them".
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby outcast » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 11:39:21

16. We're all doomed.
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby Quinny » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 11:43:51

8a The current economic problems have nothing to do with Peak Oil.
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 12:28:05

The solution is to live local, grow local, work with your neighbors and find local sustainability.

We'll make it if we build light rail networks

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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby mos6507 » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 12:37:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', '8')a The current economic problems have nothing to do with Peak Oil.


They sure as hell don't have as much to do with peak oil as the people here want.
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby mos6507 » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 12:38:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', '1')6. We're all doomed.


Nobody is saying we're all doomed. Just most :)
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby eXpat » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 12:42:00

- Demand destruction will ensure that developed countries can keep their lifestyle, while third world countries go down to the stone age.
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Re: Top Ten Myths on PO.com

Unread postby dinopello » Sun 18 Jan 2009, 12:49:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', '1')6. We're all doomed.


Nobody is saying we're all doomed. Just most :)


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