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How to be a Warlord Scenario.

Unread postby pea-jay » Fri 08 Apr 2005, 03:50:12

Okay folks...I have seen it bandied around often enough, the references to MadMax, post apocolyptic banditry following a monster crash of civilization. But thats not what this thread is about.

No, let's for a minute, assume that civilization WILL totally and utterly collapse and most national governments cease to exist. Chaos ensues and there is fighting and famine and the whole nine yards. Before you start humming "we don't need another hero" my question to you is:

HOW WOULD YOU BECOME A WARLORD?

There are benefits here...women*...(relative) security...control over resources and so on. You would call the shots (in your area anyway) and could rule with an iron fist. I guess what I am trying to get at is what could one do if one:

1) knew there would be a complete crash
2) lived in a large urban area with a past history of violence
3) had that Macheavellian urge to dominate others
4) you were able to anticipate the coming crash, its ramifications and were able to stockpile and prepare.

Consider this an exercise...

Would you:

* buy and strategically stockpile large number of fire arms?
* stake out a certain territory with defensive and offensive vantage points? Gravitate to industrial/non residential areas?
* form a gang/cohort/band of likeminded individuals?
* offer "protection" to unarmed citizenry in your turf in exchange for resources (raw materials, food)
* seek out alliances with certain neighboring warlords?

Assume some time would be spent in clandestine preparations (pre-crash), semi open preparations (recruiting during a crash) and post crash (such as storming and retrofitting abandoned buildings).

Perhaps it would be better to have some ecological knowledge, like setting up small defensible agricultural plots (old factory roof maybe?) or jerry rigging alternative energy devices.


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In anycase, this is just a hypothetical scenario...but if it does come play out that way, what would you do to become a warlord?

* special bonus points awarded for a female warlord scenario
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Unread postby Doly » Fri 08 Apr 2005, 05:34:11

I think it would massively help if you were a gangster already.
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Unread postby Raxozanne » Fri 08 Apr 2005, 05:45:29

I would like to set up a rural tribal culture with a made up religion. hehehe
You could set one up and make everyone prey to the wise old god *dyson* or something stupid like that. It would be mean but funny.
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Unread postby Yavicleus » Fri 08 Apr 2005, 10:46:50

I have put serious thought into buying enough guns to arm myself AND all of my immediate neighbors.

Not to become a warlord per-se, but to form a collective defense, because despite what some survivalists on this board might think, I think it would be pretty damn near impossible to mount any reasonable defense that is not coordinated with your neighbors.
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Unread postby pea-jay » Fri 08 Apr 2005, 11:24:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '*') form a gang/cohort/band of likeminded individuals?


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') think it would massively help if you were a gangster already.


Existing entities such as an organized crime syndicate might be able to pull this off. Mafia had a long existence prior to industrialization, derived from an environment lacking strong governance.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') would like to set up a rural tribal culture with a made up religion.


Never thought about this angle...it might work too.
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Unread postby Ebyss » Fri 08 Apr 2005, 11:35:35

I'd go for a multi pronged approach. First I would learn how to grow and keep food, and I'd get to work on that straight away. Second, I'd stockpile arms and ammo (hey.. we're going make believe violence and gore right?). Next, I'd get a group of friends together, male and female, who are all trustworthy, hardworking (and hopefully good looking). Then, I would teach only the women the secrets of growing food.. the men are only good for defense and building. We would ALL learn how to use guns, and would have snipers on shifts from all our vantage points, so anyone even attempting to get too close would be shot.

The advantage of teaching only the women the secrets of food growing is that they would stay in charge.. (Do I get the bonus points?)

A series of underground tunnels would be very handy in case of invasion or a need to trade with outsiders.

Preference would be given to metalworkers and craftsmen and women. Specialist knowledge in recycling old metal to make new bullets/arrows would be nice. Also, doctors would be most helpful.
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Unread postby marko » Fri 08 Apr 2005, 11:36:29

To pull off being a warlord, you certainly need an alpha personality type and skill managing people. Obviously you would need lots of street smarts as well. Experience with guerrilla warfare would help, too. The best candidates for the job will be the obvious suspects: police and military officers.
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 08 Apr 2005, 12:29:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('marko', ' ') The best candidates for the job will be the obvious suspects: police and military officers.
This is what I was thinking, too. I doubt that steet gangs will be able to compete with paramilitary orgaizations built up of crumbling remnants of entrenched power systems. If civil rights go out the window then in comes civil war. The competition would be ferocious. Maybe some of the organized crime groups will do well such as the Mafia or Japan's Yakuza. I would guess, though, that the first order of business will be to crush minority street gangs.
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Unread postby UncoveringTruths » Fri 08 Apr 2005, 13:20:28

You have got to be plumb mad dog mean!
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Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Fri 08 Apr 2005, 15:39:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') have put serious thought into buying enough guns to arm myself AND all of my immediate neighbors

Gees, yavicleus where do you live? it might be beneficial having you as a neighbour.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he advantage of teaching only the women the secrets of food growing is that they would stay in charge.. (Do I get the bonus points?)

This is funny and smart. but I don't think we could pull it off. women would jsut wind up doing all the really hard field work. :-D

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') series of underground tunnels would be very handy in case of invasion or a need to trade with outsiders.

I've totally thought of doing this, I'd like at least two tunnels and my root cellar won't be close to the house either and hidden.

for my part I'm looking into a martial art called Kali. pronounced (collie). its a form of bare handed or knife fighting taught because its very efficient and easy to learn, and freaking nasty to come up against. not a lot of katas or flashy martial arts stuff in it.

if anyone saw the movie the bourne identity/ supremacy that's what they use in that and its more deadly because its meant to be fast and efficient, no playing around or fancy stuff like in teh matrix.

Having this kind of knowledge would make you the person people look to.
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