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Re: CNN to air I.O.U.S.A

Unread postby Micki » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 00:09:28

IOUSA was shown during the twilight period of change in precidency.
After Obama stepped in to office I expect to see more films of this nature;
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Re: CNN to air I.O.U.S.A

Unread postby MonteQuest » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 00:32:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', ' ') No shitt. No more than 5 minutes of supposedly somber, serious discussion goes by before another string of obnoxious commercials shoves more Mr. FixItPro or yet another slow-motion Resort Vacation up mass consumer butt.


I about fell off the couch when a "Scooter Chair" commercial came on with the promoter saying we will help you get it for free with Medicare! 8O
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Re: CNN to air I.O.U.S.A

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:03:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', ' ') No shitt. No more than 5 minutes of supposedly somber, serious discussion goes by before another string of obnoxious commercials shoves more Mr. FixItPro or yet another slow-motion Resort Vacation up mass consumer butt.


I about fell off the couch when a "Scooter Chair" commercial came on with the promoter saying we will help you get it for free with Medicare! 8O


Good catch Monte!

I must have missed that one.

Medicare is giving out free Scooter Chairs and we're sitting around trying to figure out why Medicare is going broke... :roll:
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Re: CNN to air I.O.U.S.A

Unread postby Pretorian » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 03:19:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'I')t's a funny video. "OMFG!!! How are we going to pay for social security?" Duh! We're not. If you're not already drawing Social Security, you probably won't. Sorry boomers. You're on your own. The rest of us aren't going to pay double income tax just so that you can retire. Not gonna happen.


Seriously, what is the problem? 2 working people can't drag along a retiree? Horseshit! Several countries had 1 working person dragging along 2 retirees and they did fine.
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Re: CNN to air I.O.U.S.A

Unread postby Nickel » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 14:04:35

I like this one!
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Re: CNN to air I.O.U.S.A

Unread postby FairMaiden » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 14:19:19

I don't get it - in the video they said they would have to double the tax rate to 42% to fix this mess? Hello! I pay over 40% tax! What is the big deal? So you can't afford a 3000 sqft house with 2 cars and all the needless "stuff" to fill it. We can only afford a t/home with one car...if everyone in America did that, why couldn't they meet their obligations and start paying down the debt? Why are Americans so reluctant to do what is right for themselves and their future??

I don't see why they can't just cut programs. They are assuming that everyone is going to stay in place. Eliminate program D and you save 7 trillion...make the hard choices.

There is so much room for conservation and increased frugality that its mind boggling. If things start to hurt, I'll bet that starts kicking in.
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Re: CNN to air I.O.U.S.A

Unread postby lawnchair » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 14:52:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FairMaiden', '
')There is so much room for conservation and increased frugality that its mind boggling. If things start to hurt, I'll bet that starts kicking in.


"Paradox of Thrift", combined with modern technology is the problem there. If people go frugal and needs-based, we may not need more than 10% of our productive capacity to feed everyone and keep enough lights and heat on. Unfortunately, efficiency says that translates to 90% unemployment, not 90% more free time for everyone.

Basically, the governments are rightfully scared of 150 million idle hands. Even more scared of a billion idle hands in China. Devil's playthings.
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Re: CNN to air I.O.U.S.A

Unread postby FairMaiden » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 19:00:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Even more scared of a billion idle hands in China. Devil's playthings.


Hmm...and I thought the idle hands reference in the Bible was about self gratification. If there were billions of ppl doing THAT all day, we'd have alot of happy campers out there ;-)

I suppose the Thrift theory makes sense when you are primarily a service based industry...
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Re: CNN to air I.O.U.S.A

Unread postby bratticus » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 19:10:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bratticus', 'Y')ou can see the 30-minute version right now:

http://www.iousathemovie.com/


Full version's 4 times as long.


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Re: CNN to air I.O.U.S.A

Unread postby FairMaiden » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 23:38:11

LOL...No offense cbxer55 and I don't want to make light of your situation...but owning 4 vehicles for 2 ppl is not exactly frugal. We have a 2000 small car and I use a bicycle (with trailer for transporting baby) 8-9 mos of the year. Like I wrote, we purposefully bought a t/home instead of a house to save $.

The sad reality is that by American standards you probably ARE living frugally - but its nowhere near where most of the world would consider "frugal"...
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Re: CNN to air I.O.U.S.A

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Wed 14 Jan 2009, 02:18:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FairMaiden', 'I') don't get it - in the video they said they would have to double the tax rate to 42% to fix this mess? Hello! I pay over 40% tax! What is the big deal? So you can't afford a 3000 sqft house with 2 cars and all the needless "stuff" to fill it. We can only afford a t/home with one car...if everyone in America did that, why couldn't they meet their obligations and start paying down the debt? Why are Americans so reluctant to do what is right for themselves and their future??

I don't see why they can't just cut programs. They are assuming that everyone is going to stay in place. Eliminate program D and you save 7 trillion...make the hard choices.

There is so much room for conservation and increased frugality that its mind boggling. If things start to hurt, I'll bet that starts kicking in.


If everyone's taxes double, the extra money isn't spent on goods and services by the taxpayer.

All of the people employed by that extra spending suddenly lose their jobs.

Now all of the people employed by those peoples' spending lose their jobs...and so on.

It becomes a dangerous self-reinforcing spiral.

As for eliminating Part D, how would you like to sell that to the American people? Part D gives cheaper drugs so that seniors can afford to both eat and pay their medical bills. If you want to take away the only thing keeping a large number of these people alive, you're going to run up against a rather large and powerful lobby, The American Association of Retired Persons (AARP).

If there's one thing you can't afford to do in this country as a politician, it's making the AARP angry. Seniors vote in large numbers and unlike the rest of us, they actually show up to the polls.

I agree with you that we need to make some cuts to our benefits to seniors if we hope to keep the budget in the black by the 2020s, but it's extremely hard to do in a political context.
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