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Re: Theism, Agnosticism, Atheism, Deism, etc...

Unread postby outcast » Wed 07 Jan 2009, 06:31:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')od, if he exists, is by definition uncreated and uncaused.



If it is uncreated then how can it exist?
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Re: Theism, Agnosticism, Atheism, Deism, etc...

Unread postby Fredrik » Wed 07 Jan 2009, 07:04:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')od, if he exists, is by definition uncreated and uncaused.


If it is uncreated then how can it exist?


I could say something cool like He is the source of existence itself, but I don't think any human can wrap his head around the ultimate mystery of existence. It seems to be a Kierkegaardian jump of faith whichever option you choose.
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Re: Theism, Agnosticism, Atheism, Deism, etc...

Unread postby POAlex » Wed 07 Jan 2009, 23:00:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('POAlex', '[')i]"In the beginning God created..."

Alex



Then what created god?


The Bible says God is eternal, having no beginning or end. He exists outside of time. Eternity is probably the hardest thing for the finite human mind to conceive.

"Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God." (Psalm 90:2)

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Re: Theism, Agnosticism, Atheism, Deism, etc...

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 08 Jan 2009, 10:53:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('POAlex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('POAlex', '[')i]"In the beginning God created..."

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Then what created god?


The Bible says God is eternal, having no beginning or end. He exists outside of time. Eternity is probably the hardest thing for the finite human mind to conceive.

"Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God." (Psalm 90:2)

Alex


We tend to think like fishes in a bowl. What we see above we can not understand. Yes God the Creator is eternal as we can be. Atheists will turn into nothing......... :razz:
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Re: Theism, Agnosticism, Atheism, Deism, etc...

Unread postby Alcassin » Thu 08 Jan 2009, 13:44:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'W')e tend to think like fishes in a bowl. What we see above we can not understand. Yes God the Creator is eternal as we can be. Atheists will turn into nothing......... :razz:


Maybe God in his endless irony will reward those who didn't believe. Why not? Maybe this is the greatest mystery of faith 8)
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Re: Theism, Agnosticism, Atheism, Deism, etc...

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 08 Jan 2009, 16:03:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Alcassin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'W')e tend to think like fishes in a bowl. What we see above we can not understand. Yes God the Creator is eternal as we can be. Atheists will turn into nothing......... :razz:


Maybe God in his endless irony will reward those who didn't believe. Why not? Maybe this is the greatest mystery of faith 8)


Why not believe in truth in the 1st place?
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Re: Theism, Agnosticism, Atheism, Deism, etc...

Unread postby outcast » Thu 08 Jan 2009, 22:29:48

Because it is not truth.


Nothing that exists could not always exist. Everything is created.
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Re: Theism, Agnosticism, Atheism, Deism, etc...

Unread postby Denny » Thu 08 Jan 2009, 23:41:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('POAlex', '[')i]"In the beginning God created..."

Alex



Then what created god?


The greatest mystery of all. This is symbolized in some churches by the greek letters alpha and omega touching, as in "I am the alpha and the omega", or the begining and the end.
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Re: Theism, Agnosticism, Atheism, Deism, etc...

Unread postby vision-master » Fri 09 Jan 2009, 11:00:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', 'B')ecause it is not truth.


Nothing that exists could not always exist. Everything is created.


and destroyed by man. :razz:
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Re: Theism, Agnosticism, Atheism, Deism, etc...

Unread postby POAlex » Sun 11 Jan 2009, 17:37:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', 'B')ecause it is not truth.

Nothing that exists could not always exist. Everything is created.


If something existed in eternity past, exists in the present and will exist in eternity future, then it wasn't created.

You're thinking inside of time but the Lord exists in eternity outside of time. He is uncaused.

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Re: Theism, Agnosticism, Atheism, Deism, etc...

Unread postby bratticus » Sun 11 Jan 2009, 22:26:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yippleflipple', 'W')hich do you identify most with?

Believe in supernatural phenomena?

Intelligent design?

Where do your values come from?

Do you have faith?

share some thoughts...


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Either that or he's a tuneless piece of eurotrash.

I can't make up my mind--am I agnostic or something?
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