by wisconsin_cur » Fri 09 Jan 2009, 11:59:36
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he United Nations has said it has received reports that about 30 Palestinians were killed when Israeli forces shelled a house after they had moved about 110 civilians inside it.
"According to several testimonies, on 4 January Israeli foot soldiers evacuated approximately 110 Palestinians into a single-residence house in Zeitun, warning them to stay indoors," the UN report said on Friday.
"Twenty-four hours later, Israeli forces shelled the home repeatedly, killing approximately 30."
The incident took place on Monday in the Zeitun neighbourhood of Gaza City on Monday, the report said.
Bold mine, it strikes me as an important caveat.
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by Nickel » Fri 09 Jan 2009, 12:34:47
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', 'T')he flag of the land when I was born in Canada and the flag of the land when the country was still worth a fark.
Hey, if you don't like it, move to Russia.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', '.')...and if you don't think various immigrants come here just to get a passport to take advantage of Canadian taxpayers then you are naive.
Ohhh, I'm sorry; are you living in some alternate universe where people in other countries wake up one morning with the maple leaf in their eyes and maple syrup flowing through their veins, and carried on the rapture of love for the True North, Strong and Free, work and slave to catch the first legitimate flight to Canada so they can take up the mantle of being Canadian and loving this country, right or wrong? Sorry, but in our reality, that's rarely the case... there aren't leprechauns or unicorns either.
People come here not because they think we're better than them or because they hate who they are or their own country and heritage; they come here because the place offers either an economic or humanitarian advantage. I don't doubt most of them are grateful for the chance, but if you think anyone anywhere moves heaven and earth to get to another country for anything other than the most pragmatic of reasons, then you're the one who's naive. But they did pump a lot of nonsense up your a$$es back there in the 50s, I know that (you know, like the notion that having someone else's flag on your own gives the world a good, solid idea of who you are as an independent country, that kind of thing).
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', 'A') Nigerian woman told me it is a well known scam in Nigeria to show up in Canada 4 or 5 mos. pregnant, hang around till the kid is born and then start getting benefits. At least 3 of her friends had done it.
Hey, wow, folks, a Nigerian woman supposedly 'fessed up her plan and conspiracy to bring down Canada's social network to Maddy -- so apparently he's justified in condemning our citizens in the Gaza Strip to be turned into grease spots by the IDF.
Couple of things, BTW. Giving birth in Canada confers no rights, whatsoever, on anyone but the child born here. They can put her on the next flight out; we don't owe her a penny unless she's a citizen, or at least a landed immigrant (and even then, we can revoke the latter). The kid has the right to move here whenever s/he wants, live, work, the same as the rest of us. But not mom. So go peddle that where people don't know anything about Canada.
by Nickel » Fri 09 Jan 2009, 20:03:39
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', 'A')greed, didn't mean to take this thread off topic. I'll just say that Nickel's reply to me was pretty much exactly what I thought it was going to be, bwahaaaa. How predictable.
What's this constant "bwahaaaa" stuff? You channelling Speed Racer or something?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', 'S')he seems to think it is fine that our Immmigration rules are the laughing stock of the 3rd world and I think it is a disgrace.
Let these so called "Canadians" stay in Gaza or make their own way out.
It's not Canada's problem, it was their choice.
Enough said.
I seem to think citizenship is worth something and you disagree. You believe in ethnicity -- "belonging" means only people who look and sound like you. Fortunately our country hasn't been run by people like you since before Diefenbaker -- who'd be ashamed to share the flag you cling to with someone like you who disparages the unhyphenated citizenship he valued so highly.
That's the disgrace, and
that's enough said.
by wisconsin_cur » Sat 10 Jan 2009, 05:48:18
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') plan to create a new foothold in Gaza for the Palestinian Authority and to bring in international monitors was being drawn up by diplomats yesterday as a UN ceasefire call was dismissed by both sides.
The plan would allow a return of the authority, led by the secular Fatah faction, to the territory 18 months after it was expelled by the Islamist Hamas. Diplomats are considering taking a triangle at the southern end of Gaza, including the Rafah crossing to Egypt and the Kerem Shalom crossing to Israel, to be policed by Turkish and French military monitors to stop arms smuggling into Gaza.
The zone would nominally be controlled by the authority, the internationally recognised Government. Such a plan would allow the crossings to reopen for the first time since Hamas seized power in Gaza in June 2007.
The plan is being negotiated as part of the Egyptian peace initiative, announced by President Mubarak after talks with President Sarkozy of France, which calls for an immediate ceasefire to be followed by talks on securing the Gaza-Egypt border and reopening the crossings.
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by wisconsin_cur » Sat 10 Jan 2009, 05:51:17
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')avi Pillay, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, said the attack, first revealed in The Telegraph, on members of the extended Samouni family in the Gazan town of Zeitoun "appears to have all the elements of war crimes."
Her remarks came after the International Committee of the Red Cross accused Israel of breaking the rules of war by failing to help the wounded in the incident.
According to the ICRC, four infant children were found too weak to stand after clinging for 48 hours to what ambulance crew believed to be the corpses of their mothers while Israeli soldiers were less than 100 yards away.
Under the rules of war, soldiers have an obligation to treat properly the survivors of combat.
Speaking to an emergency session of the UN Human Rights Council Miss Pillay said Palestinian militants firing rockets into Israel was "unacceptable'' but that it did not justify alleged abuses committed by the Israeli army.
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by wisconsin_cur » Sun 11 Jan 2009, 02:05:11
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"We are not your problem. The Palestinians are your problem."
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Tell me how many Jews have flown planes into your buildings.
Tell me how many Palestinians?
My recollection is Saudis, a Lebanonese, UAE and Egypt.
I believe that Israel has good relations with Egypt, a calm one with the Saudi's and a complex one with Lebanon.
by wisconsin_cur » Sun 11 Jan 2009, 03:12:03
Hamas rocket chief dead
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Amir Mansi, an engineer who commanded cells responsible for firing Grad rockets supplied by Iran, died after coming under attack from a helicopter.
The Israeli army said he had been trying to fire mortar shells at their troops when he was targeted. Mansi headed the Hamas military wing’s Gaza Strip rocket division and “played a big role in Grad rocket attacks on Israeli communities”, a military spokesman said.
He was killed after a Grad struck the Israeli town of Gedera, near the Tel Nof airbase, where nuclear weapons are believed to be stored.
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by wisconsin_cur » Sun 11 Jan 2009, 03:16:58
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he violence started when police tried to move protesters away from the gates of the Israeli embassy. One police officer was knocked unconscious and two more were injured. Many people were pleading with police to allow them out of the cordon as they were trapped between two lines of officers. There were running
skirmishes between the officers and groups of young men, each time prompting a further charge from the officers and sending the crowd running screaming in the opposite direction.
Demonstrators also hurled shoes over the heads of riot police. In Edinburgh, three police officers suffered minor injuries.
Fifteen protesters were arrested in London.
Scotland Yard’s Commander Bob Broadhurst said: "A group of people on this demonstration have set out to deliberately confront and antagonise police officers trying to protect the Embassy of Israel.
"We are very disappointed by the irresponsible and criminal actions of those who have challenged police by ripping apart security barriers and throwing objects at them.
Protests in London turn violent
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