$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')It's ok to love the natural world, just don't forget that people come first.
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Documentary: "What a Way to Go: Life at the End of Empire"
Re: What a Way to Go: Life at the End of Empire
by ReverseEngineer » Sat 20 Dec 2008, 06:31:19
Have to disagree with that.
How long does a person last if he is Homeless? Without good shelter and succor, Human Beings are weak shells that succumb to the elements rapidly.
Taking care of Mother Earth isn't about protecting Panda Bears. Its about making sure we have a Home to live in. You don't repair the roof of your house, eventually the water coming in undermines the whole thing. You put too many people living in the same house, they start to fight amongst each other.
You light fires willy nilly all around your house, you about GUARANTEE it will BURN DOWN. This is all of what we did. No infrastructure maintanance, overpopulation and burning fires everywhere to make more cars and more plastic toys.
Whether you want to anthropomorphize the Earth or not, the fact is that WE do not come first, the EARTH comes first. Without the Earth, we just got no place to live, we do NOT have access to a Stargate and we can't just walk off to another world.
It had to stop, and it IS stopping. Mother Earth is srtessed past the point not only of providing good habitat for Panda Bears, it doesn;t support the 6B Human Beings living on the surface all that well either, not in aggregate. It only seems OK to you because in your little location as of yet people aren't going hungry and living in squalor, but they are already and have been for many years elsewhere. Now it is coming to a Theatre Near You. For the basic reason that you put ahead of Mother Earth human greed, and the desire to live comfortably and easily. It ain;t gonna happen anymore, because the Oil that made it possible for a short time for a few people living on the surface of the Earth is now in too short supply.
Care about people all you want, but if you don't respect Mother Nature, she will come back and THUNDER down on you with her soldiers, she will march the Hurricanes into the GOM one by one until every last rig you built is down in Davey Jones Locker. NOBODY messes with Mother Nature and wins Sixstrings, and thinking Human Beings are above that is a major error. Its going to cost Billions of lives here pretty soon, and its all because there was not the respect given to this home we have, hurtling thru space as the Spaceship Earth with its Nuclear Fired fuel supply of the Sun it revolves about. Its the one and only home this incarnation of Humanity has, and we trashed it. Now we will pay the price for that.
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Re: What a Way to Go: Life at the End of Empire
by Ludi » Sat 20 Dec 2008, 11:04:58
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 't')he fact is that WE do not come first, the EARTH comes first. Without the Earth, we just got no place to live, we do NOT have access to a Stargate and we can't just walk off to another world.
100% agree.
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Re: What a Way to Go: Life at the End of Empire
by oowolf » Tue 30 Dec 2008, 18:06:29
I had this last year and showed it to all who could sit through it, then donated to local library. It is a pretty good summation of just about everything discussed here over the years. However, as we well know, few of the brainwashed millions really want to escape the media-maintained "Wetico psychosis" that passes for human life.
note on "Wetico psychosis": Jack D. Forbes' masterwork "Columbus and Other Cannibals" is, at long last, back in print. It is a damning indictment of so-called Western Civilization, from one of the most eloquent Native American philosophers since Chief Seattle. This is another book that's definitely not for the timid.
note on "Wetico psychosis": Jack D. Forbes' masterwork "Columbus and Other Cannibals" is, at long last, back in print. It is a damning indictment of so-called Western Civilization, from one of the most eloquent Native American philosophers since Chief Seattle. This is another book that's definitely not for the timid.
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Re: What a Way to Go: Life at the End of Empire
by mos6507 » Tue 30 Dec 2008, 18:50:20
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', '
')note on "Wetico psychosis": Jack D. Forbes' masterwork "Columbus and Other Cannibals" is, at long last, back in print. It is a damning indictment of so-called Western Civilization, from one of the most eloquent Native American philosophers since Chief Seattle. This is another book that's definitely not for the timid.
')note on "Wetico psychosis": Jack D. Forbes' masterwork "Columbus and Other Cannibals" is, at long last, back in print. It is a damning indictment of so-called Western Civilization, from one of the most eloquent Native American philosophers since Chief Seattle. This is another book that's definitely not for the timid.
Here is an important point. When someone gets right in your face and makes a rage-filled rant against an entire race/group/ideology, people tend to get into fight or flight syndrome. They'll dig their heels in and defend the group they belong to simply because you're attacking. This is the main reason why I tend to kick dirt in the faces of some of the more radical members of this board. It's not that I disagree with the message all the time, but the presentation is so radical, so morally indignant, that it's really quite useless outside of the safe confines of the already-converted.
What a Way to Go tries to make the same kind of points, but it eeeases into them gently, starting from the vantagepoint of joe average who was born and bred into business as usual. That to me is worth a lot more than dozens of radical books that nobody would want to pick up unless they already agreed with the subjectmatter.
The only thing offputting about it is the title, since I think "empire" by definition is an emotionally loaded term, for obvious reasons.
We need fewer "damning indictments" and more reasoned appeals for change.
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Re: What a Way to Go: Life at the End of Empire
by misterno » Tue 30 Dec 2008, 23:18:31
How come the video is no longer available in youtube?
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Re: What a Way to Go: Life at the End of Empire
by mos6507 » Wed 31 Dec 2008, 11:12:53
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('misterno', 'H')ow come the video is no longer available in youtube?
Must have been a copyright takedown. It's not public domain.
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