[kakkerlak]

Many thousand years ago humans started to think like this;

I am amazing!
I fear no lion and I am faster then a snake!
Yes, I am amazing!
I wrestle with crocodiles and I am stronger then the mighty elephant!
O' yes, I am truly amazing!
I know the location of every tree in the forest and I can sing every song from every bird!
O' yes, I am really amazing!
I am the master of the land, the sea, the air and I control fire!
O' yes, I am amazing!
I am like a god!

And everything changed at this moment in time; we ceased to be just animals and we became like gods. At this very moment we lost our innocence and we gained choice. At this moment our instincts became mostly irrelevant, replaced by reason and imagination. From this moment onwards we became responsible.

This moment was the moment in which words like "murder" or "crime" got their meaning. Murder didn't exist before this moment. We created the concept of murder by thinking "I am like a god!". The entire concept of "evil" came into existence at this very moment.

Two paths
From our point of view and looking downwards we appear to be like gods indeed. However, when we look up into the sky, in awe and wonder, we are at best small children building little sandcastles in a sandbox.

Do you not know that you have the power to move entire mountains, stop rivers from flowing and create or destroy forests? You can be a master of the land, the sea, the air and every creature on the planet. You can look downwards, take this path, embrace this choice, and be like a god.

Being like a god, ruling over the lands and the seas, is a great responsibility. It's very difficult to make good choices and many things can go wrong. You can recognize that your ability's are limited and that you're nothing like a god. Take this path, look upwards in awe and wonder, and see that you have no choice except to serve the greater good.

Are you like a god or like a servant?

All humans have this choice, a choice between two paths to follow. But beware because one of these paths is a deception, an illusion, a brutal lie.

Have fun!
Roach

[Carlhole]

Chimpanzees engage in "murder". They just haven't got a word for it.

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') sometimes wonder what animals think of the phenomenon of humanity -- and especially of human babies. For no creature on the planet must seem anywhere near so obnoxious.
A baby screams and squalls. It urinates and defecates in all directions. It complains incessantly, filling the air with demanding cries. How human parents stand it is their own concern. But to great hunters, like lions and bears, our infants must be horrible indeed. They must seem to taunt them, at full volume.

"Yoo-hoo, beasteis!" babies seem to cry. "Here's a toothsome morsel, utterly helpless, soft and tender. But I needn't keep quiet like the young of other species. I don't crouch silently and blend in with the grass. You can track me by my noise or smell alone, but you don't dare!

"Because my mom and dad are the toughest, meanest sumbitches ever seen, and if you come near, they'll have your hide for a rug."

All day they scream, all night they cry. Surely if animals ever held a poll, they'd call human infants the most odious of creatures. In comparison, human adults are merely very, very scary.

--Jen Wolling, from The Earth Mother Blues, Globe Books, 2032.

[smallpoxgirl]

From what I've read, the screaming baby thing is a phenomenon of "civilized" humans. Lakota babies were quickly trained not to cry. One screaming baby could easily give away an entire band of people, so that they were discovered by their enemies and killed.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'F')rom what I've read, the screaming baby thing is a phenomenon of "civilized" humans. Lakota babies were quickly trained not to cry. One screaming baby could easily give away an entire band of people, so that they were discovered by their enemies and killed.

[mercurygirl]

The breast is a wondrous thing. But seriously, babies who are carried close to the bodies of the mother or other family and fed on demand just don't cry. They only cry when something is "wrong". It makes me crazy to hear a small one crying in public and see the parents just doing their thing, as if nothing was happening.

[smiley]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'L')akota babies were quickly trained not to cry.

[mercurygirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', 'S')omehow I suspect that you both don't have children. Keeping your baby close and well fed surely is a good thing, but I think you'll quickly find out that there is more to it.
If you're annoyed about a kid misbehaving in public. Before you blame the parents, just think about how the public is misbehaving towards the child.
Try to see the world around you through the lens of someone who did not have any sensory input until a few weeks before.

[kakkerlak]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'C')himpanzees engage in "murder". They just haven't got a word for it.

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kakkerlak', 'A')nimals can't break any rule because there are no rules.

[vaseline2008]

Only humans kill for the sheer joy of it. Never heard of a Serial Ape or of any animal using the hides of others for a rug.

Intelligence can be used for good or "evil"...by the way, it is only by definition evil is "evil"...what if it was socially the norm to do "evil"...then would those acts of "evil" be called "good"?

[Don35]

IMHO self awareness differentiates us from animals and "makes us gods". Chimps have a bit of self awareness, but not much. That's why being cast out of the garden of eden is a metaphor. Loss of innocence is the loss of the "paradise" of ignorance and into the tragedy of knowledge. We don't know how to handle our self awareness and we suffer. Ignorance would be bliss! The transition from animal to human includes self awareness therefore suffering. Just some thoughts!

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kakkerlak', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'C')himpanzees engage in "murder". They just haven't got a word for it.

[colliedog]

Men are no different then animals now. They don't believe in God as neither do the animals.
Can't you tell the world is a Godless place, look around?
Rats eat their young and the other rats join in. snakes, dogs cats no problem, they are just aware but not selfish aware.

Humans have the capacaty to have morals, but gave it up a few years ago.

Men are no different then animals now, and will be put out of their misery by their own selfishness.

Its all in the book, which animals can't write or read. Men can no longer read it either any more. They are like reptiles, cold blooded to a fault, ignorant, procreating without respect for anything.

God is by definition the creator of everything with infinite knowledge of all things. For man to say that is utterly stupid, no man can even figure out peak oil.

[Grifter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kakkerlak', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'C')himpanzees engage in "murder". They just haven't got a word for it.

[kakkerlak]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'T')hat's not true across the board is it? Pack animals with some social order have rules. Break the rule and you get punished by the alpha or someone higher up. Domesticated pack animals exhibit the same thing and show awareness of the rules. If I walk into a room and find our two dogs playing keep away with my sock, I don't even say anything but they drop the sock, drop their heads and slink around. Guilty!