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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby WildRose » Fri 31 Oct 2008, 14:00:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('like_the_dinosaurs', 'S')he's also at that age of wanting to experience the world so I dont know

Given the statement above, and also that you mentioned she is younger than you are ( by how many years?), it could be more of a maturity issue than anything else. Moving away from the city with you may have seemed like an adventure at the time, but it sounds like she wants to experience different aspects of the world than you do. If so, the relationship may not survive even if you follow her to the city, at least not until she gets that "experience" out of her system.

I agree with some of the other posters here; a more mature partner with similar values would be a better match. It's always harder to convince the heart than the mind, though.

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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Fri 31 Oct 2008, 14:41:18

You can't force someone to share or love your life. There has to be some sort of commitment there. If she wants to leave let her go. She's already cheating on you, and that's not going to stop just because you move with her. You're just financing her affairs.

I think telling her she can go if she wants will shake her up some, make her think about what she's doing. She might come back with some sort of compromise. If not, she's too immature to be able to sustain a real relationship and you're probably better off finding someone else.

I'm sorry this is happening, I hope it works out for you.
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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby like_the_dinosaurs » Fri 31 Oct 2008, 14:49:43

I thank everyone here for there advice. It's helped me understand my decision.
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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby skyemoor » Fri 31 Oct 2008, 15:02:59

Have you thought about an Intentional Community or a Transition Town? This came up in a thread about someone moving from Ozland to NZ http://peakoil.com/post803283.html#803283

If you don't want to move to NZ, then there's at least one Transition Town in Oz, and other Sustainable Communities. If being around people is needed, are you able to look at these options?
http://www.carfree.com
http://ecoplan.org/carshare/cs_index.htm
http://www.velomobile.de/GB/Advantages/advantages.html

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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby like_the_dinosaurs » Fri 31 Oct 2008, 17:38:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skyemoor', 'H')ave you thought about an Intentional Community or a Transition Town? This came up in a thread about someone moving from Ozland to NZ http://peakoil.com/post803283.html#803283

If you don't want to move to NZ, then there's at least one Transition Town in Oz, and other Sustainable Communities. If being around people is needed, are you able to look at these options?


She wouldn't like it. Thanks for all your help. I know what needs to happen. I will talk to her soon clear the air of bad blood.
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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby Newfie » Fri 31 Oct 2008, 17:46:57

I'd love to help but I'm off to the Marriage Councilor in 10 minutes.

BTW -
20-years invested. 2nd marriage.
She is PO aware.
She wants to stay here and "fix things."
You know, make the world right.
Sheesh!
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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby SuperTico » Fri 31 Oct 2008, 21:37:04

Too many yunguns on here.
Let the bimbo go. In a crisis you don't want a " partner" ( ball and chain, literally).
If you need poontang go drop a few dollars on some and get back to being focused. The coming years are reality.
Some bimbo with a mommy and booze problem is just a bad trip.
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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby like_the_dinosaurs » Fri 31 Oct 2008, 23:48:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SuperTico', 'T')oo many yunguns on here.
Let the bimbo go. In a crisis you don't want a " partner" ( ball and chain, literally).
If you need poontang go drop a few dollars on some and get back to being focused. The coming years are reality.
Some bimbo with a mommy and booze problem is just a bad trip

Jesus mate you should learn to give advice to people in an emotional with a bit less angst. I know what your saying and I have made a decision.

And it's this: I'm going to fight for love. I've lost fighting before but i think the day you leave someone you love behind without talking everything through and looking at every possible way around it then I dont see the point in why your here. I think the worlds needs to fight more for love.

I'm to give her till sunday then i'm going around to collect my things and that will be the end. I can't stand another friday and saturday night sitting at home wondering whats happening, who's she is with.

Thankyou for everyone's help but I'm taking a break from PO. We have almost everything we need. I think a break from reality every now and then is a good thing. The constant presure of thinking have you done enough to save the ones you love gets to you.
Thanks again
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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby Ronin » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 00:09:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('like_the_dinosaurs', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SuperTico', 'T')oo many yunguns on here. Let the bimbo go.
In a crisis you don't want a " partner" ( ball and chain, literally).
If you need poontang go drop a few dollars on some and get back to being focused.
The coming years are reality.Some bimbo with a mommy and booze problem is just a bad trip.
Jesus mate you should learn to give advice to people in an emotional with a bit less angst. I know what your saying and I have made a decision.And it's this.
I'm going to fight for love. I've lost fighting before but i think the day you leave someone you love behind without talking everything through and looking at every possible way around it then I dont see the point in why your here. I think the worlds needs to fight more for love.
I'm to give her till sunday then i'm going around to collect my things and that will be the end. I can't stand another friday and saturday night sitting at home wondering whats happening, who's she is with.
Thankyou for everyone's help but I'm taking a break from PO. We have almost everything we need. I think a break from reality every now and then is a good thing. The constant presure of thinking have you done enough to save the ones you love gets to you.
Thanks again

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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby threadbear » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 01:10:26

Looks like social isolation to me. I live on a small island, population 2,000. I refer to the Island as "Guy"land, because men love it, but a lot of women need hustle bustle and social vibrancy, not to mention access to shopping. If your partner is the type who just misses the shopping, let her go, by all means. Don't feel bad, feel lucky. If it's a social movie/theatre problem, see if you can find a cheap apartment in town to get away to for a week or two, every few months.
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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby blukatzen » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 14:03:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', ' ')but a lot of women need hustle bustle and social vibrancy, not to mention access to shopping.

I don't need "hustle and bustle" and am rather ambivalent about shopping. I hate shopping. What a time waster!
I am at the time of my life where I can just make do with my own company and entertainment, my animal companions and my husband.

I'd cherish the area you live, TB, because it affords one to get to the core of life's experiences and also not having to put up with the fake trappings of consumerist society. (that encourage shopping as "real experience".)

The young ones need it though, I guess. They'll figure it out. Mistakes and all...oh well. The world to them is all shiney-ness and new experiences when they leave the homestead on their own. We've all done it. Just takes some to realize it's an illusion, and a thing to wear you down and out.

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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby threadbear » Sat 01 Nov 2008, 18:42:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('blukatzen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', ' ')but a lot of women need hustle bustle and social vibrancy, not to mention access to shopping.
I don't need "hustle and bustle" and am rather ambivalent about shopping. I hate shopping. What a time waster!
I am at the time of my life where I can just make do with my own company and entertainment, my animal companions and my husband.
I'd cherish the area you live, TB, because it affords one to get to the core of life's experiences and also not having to put up with the fake trappings of consumerist society. (that encourage shopping as "real experience".)
The young ones need it though, I guess. They'll figure it out. Mistakes and all...oh well. The world to them is all shiney-ness and new experiences when they leave the homestead on their own. We've all done it. Just takes some to realize it's an illusion, and a thing to wear you down and out.

I feel pretty much the same way you do, and I do appreciate living here, on the island, but some people just can't take it. They need more mental stimulation.
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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby alokin » Sun 02 Nov 2008, 19:09:26

I would not give my partner up for preps. What's live worth being alone?
And she seems really to love you the way she hurts herself.
Maybe there is a possibility moving elsewhere, not to Brisbane and not were you are now, a smaller town. Maybe its not the place but something else. I would rather suggest doing some partnership consultancies (however this is called).
And maybe she wants children or has still a huge problem.
And maybe you could make an arrangement that she lives half the time in BRisbane, earns money for preps and comes out the other half and you would still be a couple.
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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby canuckinczech » Fri 07 Nov 2008, 04:12:54

Sounds like some good advice out there.
I had a situation in my life which may be of interest to you, granted no two situations are the same. However , my situation sounds close enough to be worth comment.

I was seeing a woman who seems to be a very similar character type as your partner. She was my first love, we were together 8 years, during that time I realized that that N. America was becoming an increasingly volitile place to be in. I forced a move , believing that it was the smartest thing to do to prepare us both...Unfortunately, the right place to be, happened to be to a similiar enviroment she grew up with, resistance.

For love, I moved back to N. America for her. I put too much faith and expectation in our relationship... I found out she was sleeping around. Heatbroken, I left, I returned to my original plan. Within a year, back where I believed I should be, a woman came along who amazingly shared the same beliefs as myself...she came for the same reasons,...she became the love of my life.

We are now married, have 2 wonderful kids...and are building a future that we BOTH believe in.

All relationships need work...however, it is very dangerous to inflict your beliefs on someone who is not ready, or may never be ready. There is such a stong tendency to want to protect the ones you love with what you percieve as the logical path. The hard thing to come to terms with, is that, some people just prefere a different path ...even if they know it will probably lead them to a cliff.
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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby alokin » Fri 07 Nov 2008, 05:31:09

czech yes, you're right. I think a partnership must be based on a compatible world view. If your partner don't believe in PO but likes a green lifestyle that's OK, because the foundation of thought are the same.
I think for me it would be difficult living with someone who does not agree with my lifestyle, who wants to buy a posh car, a four bdr house and all this stuff. The aims you're working for are simply different. Especially if you have kids.
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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby outcast » Fri 07 Nov 2008, 10:01:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')ts also my fault too, I've kind of neglected her because of PO.

I hate to say this, but when you buy into all these doom and gloom predictions about the future and become obsessed with them, your personal life will suffer the consequences.

But really, how do you know "the collapse" is actually going to happen? In the 60's and 70's (and also right before Y2k) so many people fell into the same doom gutter (although about other things) and made a run for the hills.........and the predictions they put so much faith in turned out to be bogus.

That being said I'm curious about the reasons she previously broke up with you........
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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby galacticsurfer » Fri 07 Nov 2008, 11:44:17

My wife complains as I am not a big man with lots of money as she came from Russia and lots of people there expect everyon in The West have a certain lifestyle you see on TV but she is used ot making ends meet and flexible in terms similar to say a Mexican or Philippino, etc. wife I imagine if forced into a bad situation so the basis is good or even better from her side as she has more practical survival knowledge from childhood when the crash really hits. So as I don't know how bad it will get and don't have money to "get out of Dodge" I have done little in terms of Prep but we are essentially very flexible in our entire basic mental structure (poor bastards growing up with lots of book learning).
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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby canuckinczech » Fri 07 Nov 2008, 12:15:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('galacticsurfer', 'M')y wife complains as I am not a big man with lots of money as she came from Russia and lots of people there expect everyon in The West have a certain lifestyle you see on TV but she is used ot making ends meet and flexible in terms similar to say a Mexican or Philippino, etc. wife I imagine if forced into a bad situation so the basis is good or even better from her side as she has more practical survival knowledge from childhood when the crash really hits. So as I don't know how bad it will get and don't have money to "get out of Dodge" I have done little in terms of Prep but we are essentially very flexible in our entire basic mental structure (poor bastards growing up with lots of book learning).


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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby SuperTico » Fri 07 Nov 2008, 17:49:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('like_the_dinosaurs', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SuperTico', 'T')oo many yunguns on here.
Let the bimbo go. In a crisis you don't want a " partner" ( ball and chain, literally).
If you need poontang go drop a few dollars on some and get back to being focused.
The coming years are reality. Some bimbo with a mommy and booze problem is just a bad trip

Jesus mate you should learn to give advice to people in an emotion with a bit less angst. I know what your saying and I have made a decision.
And it's this: I'm going to fight for love. I've lost fighting before but i think the day you leave someone you love behind without talking everything through and looking at every possible way around it then I dont see the point in why your here. I think the worlds needs to fight more for love.
I'm to give her till sunday then i'm going around to collect my things and that will be the end. I can't stand another friday and saturday night sitting at home wondering whats happening, who's she is with.
Thankyou for everyone's help but I'm taking a break from PO. We have almost everything we need. I think a break from reality every now and then is a good thing. The constant presure of thinking have you done enough to save the ones you love gets to you.
Thanks again

"Love" is when you are so infatuated with someone you woul'd do anything to have kidz with them to perpetuate yourselves.

Lust is " she gives good_____" To many, apparently.

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Re: Peak oil has ended my relationship with my partner, Help

Unread postby Ronin » Sun 09 Nov 2008, 03:16:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('like_the_dinosaurs', 'I') thank everyone here for there advice. It's helped me understand my decision.

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