[MrBill]

Life imitates art. Now NASCAR can get back to all those Hollywood cliches about great racers building great cars down on the farm in old horse barns. Ol' burned-out legends teaching the young guns how it is done... with none of that corporate sponorship to taint the sport.

[galacticsurfer]

Now just imagine all the pro-sports guys earning a regular Joe's salary like before TV ad revenues brought us the 100 million Dollar football player. God maybe they would play for love of the game.

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('galacticsurfer', 'N')ow just imagine all the pro-sports guys earning a regular Joe's salary like before TV ad revenues brought us the 100 million Dollar football player. God maybe they would play for love of the game.

[SuperTico]

ALL sports are for idiots. Every time I hear some asshole who can barely talk, after yelling at a TV full of steroid monkeys playing with a ball, I want to cut his GD throat and take him out of the gene pool.

Sports, TV and Movies.
All " designed" to keep you from thinking and seeing the truth.

A Nascar event is a great place to pick up girls since they have an IQ of about 40 and a nice ass from riding their horsey every day.

[IslandCrow]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SuperTico', '[')b]ALL sports are for idiots.

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IslandCrow', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SuperTico', '[')u]ALL sports are for idiots.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '.')..If you have seen Ben Hur once you have seen them all.

[galacticsurfer]

it's certainly a cliche but mind, body, soul are a unit. If you study all day and never do sports or have no social life perhaps you will be smart but you might not be wise or happy or balanced emotionally.

I do yoga and Tai Chi and have family and work life. Unemployed people are more often ill and depressed. Organized sport is nt something I do but it seems a good idea for socializing if you are into fitnness. Others go to chess clubs or other things. Sport is however essential even if ti just means walking the dog briskly for 30 minutes daily or similar.

[lateStarter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '.')..If you have seen Ben Hur once you have seen them all.

[MrBill]

I gotta call this week from an old friend, my mentor, the CEO of a Fortune 500 Company, retired. He was scheduled to give a talk on peak oil. Before I had a chance to tell him anything, he said, in our lifetime we will experience peak oil, peak food and fresh water scarcity. I added in shortages of fertilizer. Food, fuel, fertilizer and fresh water. He was quite surprised to know how clued in I was as many will not accept this reality. I sent him some of my essays that I have posted here before. Some do get it. It is a great continuem of knowledge. Some are left, some are right. He owns a farm and 'trotters'. I do not know why I think of that now, but I think it was because Nascar, Daytona, race horses or trotters is like a hobby. Sometimes reality only becomes our reality when it bumps up against our perceptions of reality. A rude awakening. Everyone of us will have to deal with a minute in our lives or in the lives of those that are close to us when we realize that the future is more uncertain than anything we could have expected. A lfe changing moment. Even if you're trailer park trash, and your name is Bubba, we all come to that moment in our own way. I have no ill-will to motorheads that simply grew-up that way. They will have their own moment of awakening as well. None of us are innocent. None of us are totally responsible for peak oil. We are where we are at a certain juncture of time and space. We live in interesting times.

[tx20fan]

So why do all you people care that hundreds of thousands of other people do find NASCAR entertaining AND a sport? Does it take away from the things you like? Football??? Run 5 seconds and everyone falls down...run 5 seconds and everyone falls down. AND on the same 300 feet of dirt. Sounds pretty stupid if you just look at the basic concept of ANY sport. When you get into the details of NASCAR, just like anything, you realize there's a lot more to it than turning left. So you must think drag racing is even dumber than NASCAR because they don't even have to turn and I bet most of you macho guys have done a little street racing in your day. Is swimming not a sport? They just go back and forth in a pool. A race of any kind involves mental and physical talent. NASCAR drivers have that. I don't think the most physically fit NBA or NFL player could handle going 180 miles an hour for up to 5 hours with tempetures reaching over 100 degrees and not wreck into 42 other guys doing the same thing.

I don't know why people put such energy into slamming things other people enjoy. Hockey bores the crap out of me, but I'm not going to spend my life bitching about it to hockey fans. Do you think you'll convert some fans away from NASCAR if you cripe enough? AND you will gain what from that? Get a life guys and let people make their own decisions on what they like and what they consider a sport.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tx20fan', '
')I don't know why people put such energy into slamming things other people enjoy.

[topfuel]

I've added 5 names to the ignore list
anyone on this site that's not a motorhead
should not use oil.
If it wasn't for Basketball there would be too many
JANITORS

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('topfuel', 'I')'ve added 5 names to the ignore list
anyone on this site that's not a motorhead
should not use oil.
If it wasn't for Basketball there would be too many
JANITORS

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tx20fan', '
')I don't know why people put such energy into slamming things other people enjoy.

[cube]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tx20fan', '.').... When you get into the details of NASCAR, just like anything, you realize there's a lot more to it than turning left.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '
')Longer than necessary daily commutes from the suburbs and exurbs, and non-essential recreational travel, wastes way more fuel annually than motor races do.

[frankthetank]

I can just imagine how much oil is used by the Brewers... With the amount of games they play, plus the preseason, plus all the personal travel by the players. The team flies a big jet to all their games.

Think of all the oil that is consumed for a typical college football game. Some of those stadiums hold close to a 100K people.

I think Nascar is a waste, but i feel the same for NFL, NBA (worse yet), and GOLF (don't go there...Tiger?)....baseball is fine, but i don't watch much. I'd rather go for a 3hr hike in the woods then sit through an NFL game.

[vaseline2008]

I guess recreation and entertainment is the byproduct of a prosperous society. Even animals on occasion like to "play". We are no different. I believe the saying goes "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy".

Anyone who has worked 7 days straight without a day off can attest to the strain both on the body and mind.

Now on the other hand, we as a society have become voyeurs more than participants and I think that's where we are going wrong.

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vaseline2008', 'I') guess recreation and entertainment is the byproduct of a prosperous society. Even animals on occasion like to "play". We are no different. I believe the saying goes "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy".

Anyone who has worked 7 days straight without a day off can attest to the strain both on the body and mind.

Now on the other hand, we as a society have become voyeurs more than participants and I think that's where we are going wrong.