[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dohboi', '"')I don't know about that quadrillion dollars"

Try this

Don't question El Cid's figures without doing your own research. The whole area of derivatives is quite shadowy, but 1.14 quadrillion is not just some WAG.

[pinewillow]

The money masters are doing their darndest to foment strife, America has been so blessed it is hard to ruin its economy enough to make people revolt, but it will get there soon, they are working hard at collapsing the dollar and it takes a little time.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'I') guarantee they will not be able to round up the guns in the US.

They will start by trying to force you to register that you have them with your local law enforcement, that will go over like a lead balloon, as the NRA will start screaming from the rooftops.
Such a law would be ignored on the most part, and everyone will be running around quoting Charlton Heston, "I'll give you my gun when you take it from my cold, dead hands!"

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pinewillow', '
')
This whole thing is called "heltter-skeltter"
look it up.
The PTB don't like the US or its constitution and they will be bringing it down before 2012.

that is the date they set to do it that is why all the weird extraterrestrial/ planetx/ and other rediculous scenarios have gotten everyone ready for a problem.


It isnt us against the government

they want us to THINK it is us against the government.

It has been programmed into our '60's teenagers (who are in charge now) "revolution"(beatles) Helter skelter - stones and many other, the 60's revolution was training for when the teens would be in charge.

and the funny part is it is happening and no one believes it. so,
Just do not get involved, stay home and be quiet, move west and you will survive.

Free enterprise and free state with personal choice in religion will not survive.

The beast will make WAR and will FORCE everyone who has his number to worship him (its about religion)
and if you dont join they will kill you.

Ok, thats it in a nutshell.

go research helter skelter and gov takeover, planned since 1935...

[pinewillow]

This is true. Read revelation.
The reason it will be allowed to happen is Lucifer finally got people so self enthralled that they REPENTED NOT.

Get it? The illuminati goal is to get people to repent not (don't believe in God cant repent) so disaster will be allowed.
Just like the Jews, they were allowed to be eliminated and revelation promises the beast will be succesful, right?

only the few who REPENT and hide in his shelter will survive.

It says THE WHOLE WORLD will follow the beast and worship the beast, they will.
They are not paying attention. They will, and the lies from the illuminati that there will be 1000 years of peace with lucifer ruling the planet is just a lie. Revelation says the whole world will be tempted and will go awry. The road is broad,

Whn JC returns many will say LOrd Lord have not we cast out devils in thy name? He will say, "Get away from me you workers of iniquity"

The right wing will be rejected, they did not repent, they thought they could be saved without repenting they fell for the lie.

as for the actual method, It is not a theory. (Helter skelter)
They published it since 1935 and people who worked under them just told what they heard, not a theory just history.

I won't give the name it will be obvious. search a little.

They watchers are everywhere, go to OUT OF THIS WORLD THREAD Read the FDR thread. Total truth. That is why it was instantly moved there so no one would read it.

It is all factual and all the information is on wikipedia, so, banish it to out of this world. why not. Can't have the truth out here.

who started this round and the final collapse of the USA.
FDR

NOTICE how FDR has the HUGEST MONUMENT in washington dc! It is basically disgusting.
It was basically WAY overdone glory to an illuminati puppet president who destroyed america for them.

The same methods that brought down ROME by the illuminati were used in FDR administration, basically letting the people pay themselves.


Without FDR america would wsstill be standing strong.

The power lies in secret power groups. SS Waffen in Hitlers day, Spanish inquisition in the dark ages, KGB in Russia, the secret services where no oversight is possible.
this is the stronghold of power now. They are all united.

The best way to hide a secret is to make it so implausible that no one will believe it

Herman Goering. Illuminati puppet.

Read this paragraph into a camera, put it on you tube, and post it

in 1 hour it will be removed.
This is not something they want known.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pinewillow', '
')The power lies in secret power groups.

[pinewillow]

this is a lie.

The force is withcraft. War of the worlds, Heinlin, Isaac asimove, startrek, Star wars, bewitched, My favorite martian, sabrina, henry porter, Lord of the rings, all were pagan wiccan programming for the children.

There is no other side, you are into pagan error.

"There remaineth only a fearful waiting for the day of judgment"


Ever burning hell is a pagan myth taken up by all pagan religions, infiltrated by illuminati.

If your church teaches ever burning hell (which is unfair and rediculous) then you belong to an illuminati infiltrated religion, get out.

judgment day is eternal life or eternal non existance after proper penalty.

Ezekial tells us we will walk on the wicked peoples ashes. They will not remain alive, this was told so people would be discusted with religion. it worked. God is trying to save us, he will in nowise cast out any that come to him.

"He that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out."

So how do you keep people from coming to him?
Tell them he is bad and will kill you and torture people forever.

give up the lie, The bet with all the chips on the table is for your soul

Why?
Lucifer is lost and will die and become ashes, he knows it
he is enraged he wants to take as many with him as he can
don't believe his lies as long as you are alive you can repent and be sorry and you are instantly given a new life with God, price paid.

that easy, now walk in the truth and become nicer and nicer forever, great future.


And those who don't believe in God will not be around for an afterlife.

The first lie ever told by lucifer was
"No, you will not die, eve, but you will, in the afterlife, become like God's

Don't tell me you fell for that old lie again. There is no afterlife or reincarnation.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pinewillow', '
')
There is no other side, you are into pagan error.

[pinewillow]

There is no other side after death,

there is no reincarnation.

There is only this side. There is a resurection into THIS side, this is the only side there is.

at a certain point, dead are raised and they are HERE in this timeline again. there is no other side.

that is pagan myth.

The demons and angels are HERE, cloaked on this side.

It is a hard concept after all the programming we recieved.

God is Here, beings of great power are here, there is a physical force here, not the other side.

Bible says
"If their eyes could be opened they would see.

Elishah prayed for gehaza "open his eyes to see the angels" and he immediately saw multitudes of angels and chariots on this side.

The circle, the coven the OTHER SIDE are all lies.

In their rityuals they draw a circle and cal forth powers of darkness from the OTHER SIDE this is a lie, they just uncloak after the proper rituals, they want to train people in the believe that there is another side.

there is not.

its all al lie.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pinewillow', '
')God is Here, beings of great power are here, there is a physical force here, not the other side.

Bible says
"If their eyes could be opened they would see.

Elishah prayed for gehaza "open his eyes to see the angels" and he immediately saw multitudes of angels and chariots on this side.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pinewillow', 'T')his is true. Read revelation.
The reason it will be allowed to happen is Lucifer finally got people so self enthralled that they REPENTED NOT.

Get it? The illuminati goal is to get people to repent not (don't believe in God cant repent) so disaster will be allowed.
Just like the Jews, they were allowed to be eliminated and revelation promises the beast will be succesful, right?

only the few who REPENT and hide in his shelter will survive.

It says THE WHOLE WORLD will follow the beast and worship the beast, they will.
They are not paying attention. They will, and the lies from the illuminati that there will be 1000 years of peace with lucifer ruling the planet is just a lie. Revelation says the whole world will be tempted and will go awry. The road is broad,

Whn JC returns many will say LOrd Lord have not we cast out devils in thy name? He will say, "Get away from me you workers of iniquity"

The right wing will be rejected, they did not repent, they thought they could be saved without repenting they fell for the lie.

as for the actual method, It is not a theory. (Helter skelter)
They published it since 1935 and people who worked under them just told what they heard, not a theory just history.

I won't give the name it will be obvious. search a little.

They watchers are everywhere, go to OUT OF THIS WORLD THREAD Read the FDR thread. Total truth. That is why it was instantly moved there so no one would read it.

It is all factual and all the information is on wikipedia, so, banish it to out of this world. why not. Can't have the truth out here.

who started this round and the final collapse of the USA.
FDR

NOTICE how FDR has the HUGEST MONUMENT in washington dc! It is basically disgusting.
It was basically WAY overdone glory to an illuminati puppet president who destroyed america for them.

The same methods that brought down ROME by the illuminati were used in FDR administration, basically letting the people pay themselves.


Without FDR america would wsstill be standing strong.

The power lies in secret power groups. SS Waffen in Hitlers day, Spanish inquisition in the dark ages, KGB in Russia, the secret services where no oversight is possible.
this is the stronghold of power now. They are all united.

The best way to hide a secret is to make it so implausible that no one will believe it

Herman Goering. Illuminati puppet.

Read this paragraph into a camera, put it on you tube, and post it

in 1 hour it will be removed.
This is not something they want known.

[manu]

For God so loved the world that for 100 years of sin, provided you sinned every moment of your life for 100 years, he sent you to hell forever. Eternally. Wow, that is a loving God. Not a few million years in hell, but forever. That isn't even just what to speak of merciful. Are you sure your God isn't the one wearing the horns and tail? Sounds like it to me.

Will this get bloody? You will soon find out as it is going to be a Black Christmas. It will all come down by then. Have a happy New Year, if your still alive.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('manu', 'W')ill this get bloody? You will soon find out as it is going to be a Black Christmas. It will all come down by then. Have a happy New Year, if your still alive.

[americandream]

Pinewillow

I suggest you try a dose of reason in trying to understand America's predicament. The infinite cosmos is much too dispassionately inclined to be concerned with the likes of this planet let alone America.

As a species, we make our realities. In letting bronze age primitivism rule our minds, it's hardly surprising we fall prey to unscrupulous rogues.

A truly representative government will require effort, thought and commitment, from YOU. No god or super being will be riding to the rescue I'm afraid. Nor are there conspiring forces of evil lurking out there. Just good old fashioned greed and self interest which we all have allowed to flourish in our midst. Now we pay the piper.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', ' ')No god or super being will be riding to the rescue I'm afraid. Nor are there conspiring forces of evil lurking out there.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', ' ')No god or super being will be riding to the rescue I'm afraid. Nor are there conspiring forces of evil lurking out there.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'G')od's not going to be riding over the hill to the rescue. It's going to be up to us, if we have the guts, to tackle this problem and all the other disasters we are in the process of visiting upon our kids and their kids. That's going to take a steady nerve and awareness as to where we went wrong. Which in turn will take work, effort and time....in other words personal sacrifice.

[clodwilly]

What is supernatural is each cell continues to produce ATP against the drag of entropy, and each cell wall remains intact the energy is contolled for a predermined time then the cell wears out just in time for another to grow and replicate, the whole system is fascinating and if supernatural power wasn't holding each cell you would cease to exist.

Look at a flower. what is it for? To look at.
and the sunset and kittens and puppies. grass, birds couds.
all pretty colors.

You cannot see God it is strange.

[VMarcHart]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', '.')..TV broadcasts have once again done everything they could to hide a backdoor giga-bailout orchestrated by the Fed to keep the economy lubricated: the banks have borrowed a record $437.5 billion per day from Fed, Reuters attested candidly as of October 16. Let's also mention the Fed announced a few day before it would provide broad access to unlimited borrowing.

[HEADER_RACK]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hether you believe this or not, the key here is to be on the GOOD side. The Forces of Good will defeat the Forces of Evil.

[dohboi]

Wow, sorry if my metaphorically intended reference to the devil was what spun this thread into a theological and metaphysical tail spin.

During the depression were there lots and lots of riots? Starving people don't have a lot of energy for rioting. The real perpetrators of violence are usually the state or the corporations that the state is there to protect.

Talk about violent impulses in the masses provides wonderful cover for those in uniform to mace and beat innocuous citizens trying to do their duty to express very legitimate concerns.

Keep it up.