[BigTex]

I always figured there was a neanderthal in the wood pile.

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vampyregirl', 'I')t is highly unlikely that red haired people would have evolved in Africa. Red hair and pale skin is not a good survival trait for that climate. And the red hair gene goes back to long before our ancestors are supposed to have left Africa. So I think it likely it was passed on to us by Neanderthal man.

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')hat about Orangutans? They have red hair.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')hat about Orangutans? They have red hair.

[mercurygirl]

OK, enlighten me. WTF is the "red hair gene"? My understanding is that the genetics of this are not simple. Maybe I need to add this to my list of interests, cuz I'm a true red-haired Celt.

[PenultimateManStanding]

I saw a documentary series once tracing the history of emergence of marker genes. Evidently modern humanity goes back 56,000 years to African Bushmen. All modern human types, so-called races, go back to them. The 56,000 year number refers to when they began to emigrate from northern central Africa. They spread across the entire world, including to Europe where they encountered Neanderthals, who were not human but a close relative. Interestingly, there are still descendants of the original Bushmen still living in the same place. They don't look like most other Africans. Their skin is moderately brown and they look vaguely Asiatic.

[mercurygirl]

I always wondered about the prevalent beliefs about the "little people". Maybe it's an ancestral memory thing, relating to our relatives who died out. I'm sure this has been explored.

[PenultimateManStanding]

Of course, in response to the OP, there is moth DNA in modern humans, along with that of Saber Toothed Tigers, snails and Dinosaurs. And red headed little people with cute green hats.

[katkinkate]

It's more likely, that the shared gene is one of the many we shared from our common ancestor. The neanderthals were closer relatives to us than we are to chimps and we share something like 98% of our genes with the chimps, we would have shared even more with the neanderthals. No cross-breeding necessary. Although that doesn't mean it didn't happen. They may have been close enough related that at least some cross-bred offspring were fertile and left descendants, but it isn't really necessary to explain shared genes.

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')hat about Orangutans? They have red hair.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vampyregirl', 'G')enetic analysis of ancient DNA traces from Neanderthal bones found in El Sidron cave in Spain have yielded evidence that Neanderthal carried the red hair gene. So could there be truth to the theory of the gene passed on to us by Neanderthal man? I think so.

[grassland]

No.

Several errors here.

We share many genes with chimps, dogs cats and plants.

sSince we do not know which once imaginary neanderthals had, it is ipossible to make this statement.

Bad science is conclusion that is not reproducible.

Evolution is not science as non of it is reproducbile in any way.

People rally don't want God so they don't mind ignoring the tenets of reproducible scienec, just so they can feel unguilty about partying.

That is the bottom line.


This thread is like saying:
Hobbits share many of the same DNA with humans.

actually the neanderthal wskeleton wasnt neanderthal, it was human. Had to be, since there never was a neanderthal.

also, you can't have even the minuteset species change within 6000 years. not going to happen.

So, this thread is moot.

[skeptik]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('grassland', '
')
also, you can't have even the minuteset species change within 6000 years. not going to happen.

So, this thread is moot.

[Falconoffury]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 's')Since we do not know which once imaginary neanderthals had, it is ipossible to make this statement.

[vampyregirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vampyregirl', 'G')enetic analysis of ancient DNA traces from Neanderthal bones found in El Sidron cave in Spain have yielded evidence that Neanderthal carried the red hair gene. So could there be truth to the theory of the gene passed on to us by Neanderthal man? I think so.

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('grassland', 'N')o.

Several errors here.

also, you can't have even the minuteset species change within 6000 years. not going to happen.

So, this thread is moot.

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 's')Since we do not know which once imaginary neanderthals had, it is ipossible to make this statement.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vampyregirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vampyregirl', 'G')enetic analysis of ancient DNA traces from Neanderthal bones found in El Sidron cave in Spain have yielded evidence that Neanderthal carried the red hair gene. So could there be truth to the theory of the gene passed on to us by Neanderthal man? I think so.

[vampyregirl]

I had suspected this for some time, ever since it was established that Neandertal man carried the red haired gene, which is very old, going back to before our ancestors are suposed to have left Africa and it is highly unlikely that red haired people would have evolved in Africa.
A genetic study released today shows that people of European, Asian and Australasian origin all have Neandertal DNA but not Africans.
The study was lead by Svante Paabo of the Max Planck Institute in Munich, Germany. Paabo says that all of us outside of Africa have a little Neandertal DNA in us.
Dr David Reich of the Harvard Medical school, who participated in the study, confirmed that Neandertal inherited genetic material is a small but very real proportion of ancestry in all non Africans today.
It feels good to be proven right

[timmac]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vampyregirl', '.')
It feels good to be proven right