[joeltrout]

It seems lately peakoil has taken a back burner to subjects such as the hurricanes, financial markets, precious metals, etc....

I haven't been on here long enough so I was wondering does peak oil interest/conversation grind to a halt when oil prices fall?

It seems I can find more information about the credit crisis or gold prices rather than new information about global oil production.

I will say I am part of the problem because I like to talk about the financial markets but it seems like little oil talk is taking place.

joeltrout

[Ferretlover]

IMHO, it does not "grind to a halt;" It is more like the concept of peak oil has been covered from nearly every perspective, and now what remains is to find those partially hidden facts that prove (or, disprove) the conclusions made on this site, and preserve for [s]prosperity[/s] posterity the chain of events leading up to peak oil, and its aftermath.
In this regard, most of us owe a great deal to the reasearch and discussions of the senior members.
As for (most) of the other thread topics, I have noticed that many of the posters (myself included) feel more comfortable talking with others who are knowledgeable about peak oil, and generally use PO as a reference point in discussing those other topics.

edited to fix goofy error!

[PenultimateManStanding]

I think you meant posterity. Though we'd all like as much prosperity as we can get.

[smallpoxgirl]

Well let's see. Hurricaines affect the price and production of petroleum products. The price and availability of petroleum affects the health of the financial markets. Precious metals are used to hedge oneself against peak oil induced market crashes. Where's the problem here?

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I') think you meant posterity. Though we'd all like as much prosperity as we can get.

[mos6507]

People will start talking about zombie hordes more when oil goes back to $145.

[kpeavey]

you should be getting your 1 year pin in the mail any day now.

[TheDude]

I've noticed much the same phenomenon at other sites - and don't really mind. How the global financial situation will impact us is much more pertinent now than sussing out details about EOR. I'm sure we'll have a copious thread on the IEA report in November, though.

Our inventory threads maintain my interest in the nuts and bolts side of things. That's where this site excels above any other, IMO.

[ki11ercane]

I think one possible answer is people discuss what is affecting the world today rather than what would affect the world 5-50 years from today. The postulated effects of Peak Oil are not directly affecting the daily life of anyone in any of the countries that people post from here. There aren't any spot food, fuel, or utility shortages as a direct result of Peak Oil. Oil isn't anywhere near in price where it was two months ago. (and it's trending down, not up) People are still consuming at an insane rate no matter how broke or credit strapped they are or how expensive staple goods have become. Out of all the drivers on the road in April, only 4% less are driving right now. The list goes on.

If the postulated effects of Peak Oil are currently in motion, no effect has been felt that the general populous is noticing. They are barely noticing the government hijacking their tax dollars to bail out bad decision loans of their neighbors or of businesses and literally taking the LAST STEP in saving the economy. Really, what options are there AFTER this?

Of the basic issues possibly related to Peak Oil (gas prices, food prices, transportation, and energy) people are still driving, eating, moving goods around, and keeping the heat and lights on and are only grumbling about the costs. Remember out of 6.6 billion people on the planet, only 60,000 of them are here talking about it. Ten percent of ten percent of ten percent of ten percent of ten percent. We're surrounded by the Sheeple.

What is relevant right now is the U.S. market is in trouble and the U.S. government just gambled it's Citizens tax dollars to save itself. If this doesn't work out, Peak Oil will be a non-issue for at least another decade when North America emerges from it's financial slump. (and maybe the rest of the world for that matter) Oil consumption will be offset by the hundreds of millions of poor, displaced, and financially decimated people, businesses and possibly whole countries.

Oil prices as to where they were 8 weeks ago at $147.00 a barrel seemed to have nothing to do with Peak Oil issues. The world suddenly didn't stop consuming 30% less oil and/or it didn't increase production by 30%. The markets dictated the price, and it will again. One big problem now is that higher prices are entrenched in fuel and food and soon to be utility energy prices and it's VERY hard to retract them if the general population accepts paying for them.

Overall I think other than prep discussions from the long standing members of this board, PO has taken a back seat.

[jupiters_release]

The current financial collapse(wealth and property appropriation) is overriding the fundamentals with oil pricing and keeping it artificially low. A fixed market will have a fixed crash, "change you can believe in" is right.

[joeltrout]

Its funny because I now check peakoil.com for daily news instead of foxnews or cnn. I have also caught myself referring to it as a chat room instead of a research forum.

To me it seems like peakoil.com is more of a social networking site to talk about life in general. Which isn't a bad thing just different than what I saw when oil prices were skyrocketing.

joeltrout

[mercurygirl]

First there is a mountain
Then there is no mountain
Then there is

[The_Virginian]

To finish MCgirls delicacy:

"First there is a mountain
Then there is no mountain
Then there is..."



a valley of falling leaves.

[mercurygirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Virginian', 'T')o finish MCgirls delicacy:

"First there is a mountain
Then there is no mountain
Then there is..."

a valley of falling leaves.

[Ivan_M]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', 'I') haven't been on here long enough so I was wondering does peak oil interest/conversation grind to a halt when oil prices fall?

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ivan_M', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', 'I') haven't been on here long enough so I was wondering does peak oil interest/conversation grind to a halt when oil prices fall?