[Roy]

That's a dude:

big hands -- check
Adam's apple -- check
broad shoulders -- check
big feet -- check
masculine facial features -- check

Definitely a dude.

[Denny]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'A')s Jesus said, you can't hide your light under a basket.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', 'A')nn Coulter is a media pig/whore that will say or do a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g to get her ugly face in front of a camera or her name discussed on an internet chat board...proceed accordingly.

[Plantagenet]

IMHO, its a stretch to characterize the statements of Coulter as anti-Semitic. This topic is really just an attempt to smear Coulter as an anti-semite.

Is every Christian who wants to convert Jews to their religion an anti-semite? Of course not. Christians like Coulter believe they are "saving" people from hell when they bring them to Jesus and they would be abandoning them to eternal torture if they didn't try to convert them.


Are atheists who don't believe in god and think Jews and others should abandon their faith and become atheists practicising anti-semitism? Of course not.

Coulter has a right, like every other American under our constitution, to express her religous views. Its pure McCarthyism to smear her as anti-Semite for the "thought-crime" of being a Christian.

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

I would think all religious people would secretly believe this, as thats' clearly what religion is all about. (ie, all others being wrong, yours being right.)

[jbrovont]

I was at the book store today, and I picked up the book "Godless" by Ann Coulter. I opened it up and flipped to a page and began to read. She was talking about how environmentalists wanted DDT banned because it endangered bird species, and that other than that it was completely safe for humans, on the basis it was used to kill bugs on GIs and Jews, and that a professor of biology used to eat it at lectures to prove it was safe.

She didn't mention affects on humans when we eat food covered in it.

I just did some initial reading on DDT, and I found some information regarding the book "Silent Spring," which seems to be her bird argument. I also found several studies linking DDT exposure in humans to premature births, miscariage, and a large number of neurological problems with positive correlation, and even links to a variety of cancers. Ann Coulter didn't talk about any of these reasons for banning its use.

Now, you may think I'm getting ready to slam Ann Coulter and go all Liberal on you, but I'm not.

I get the distinct impression, that the rift between liberals and conservatives *depends* on a fundamental misunderstanding of what "the other side" really thinks. I admit I come from a more liberal viewpoint on things, and this really opened my eyes. Obviously there are people out there reading Ann's books that think she's giving them the whole picture - framing the argument on DDT as being between birds and millions starving in Africa, when infact, that isn't the foundation of the reasoning behind why spraying DDT on your food is generally a bad idea. But some people that read her book will end up thinking it is. Likewise, I'm sure there are plenty of reverse examples - hopefully some more conservative people can point some out - where liberals really don't understand what their argument is.

But I had this thought: the devisive rift that keeps us under the chokehold of these two parties *depends* on us not understanding what the other side thinks, and hating them/thinking they're stupid/etc for what we *think* their argument is. I don't think it's a happy coincidence there's so much misinformation out there to fuel this.

Even more interesting: look at where these misinformations come from. There really aren't that many "trusted" sources on either side. 20 or 30 max? So between 40 and 60 people keep us mindlessly divided over essentially untrue BS so two parties can control everything else and treat us like a colony.

I'm all fired up. Time to go play some video games. lol :D

[blukatzen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jbrovont', 'B')ut I had this thought: the devisive rift that keeps us under the chokehold of these two parties *depends* on us not understanding what the other side thinks, and hating them/thinking they're stupid/etc for what we *think* their argument is. I don't think it's a happy coincidence there's so much misinformation out there to fuel this.
Even more interesting: look at where these misinformations come from. There really aren't that many "trusted" sources on either side. 20 or 30 max? So between 40 and 60 people keep us mindlessly divided over essentially untrue BS so two parties can control everything else and treat us like a colony.

[Dreamtwister]

And where did Ann Coulter get her degrees in organic chemistry and biology?

[mos6507]

The main way conservatives bash liberals is to use the strawman argument. If you tune into Rush Limbaugh, that's almost all he EVER does. He presumes to speak for liberals. He presumed to know what they think, what they believe, and what they want. He even goes into character and tries to role-play fictional scenes with them.

And the liberals take it in the *ss without fighting back. They don't even have the guts to reclaim the name liberal, retreating to the term "progressive" (listen to Air America for an example of that).

[BigTex]

Ann Coulter is the cultural equivalent of DDT.

[dinopello]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'A')nn Coulter is the cultural equivalent of DDT.

[Hawkcreek]

I would love to be able to sprinkle a couple of ounces of DDT on her food everyday - as a non-harmful prank.

[smallpoxgirl]

I think you're essentially right. The foundational premise in American politics is the idea that Democrats and Republicans are different despite enacting virtually identical policies. We are trained to give mindless allegiance to one side or the other of this false dichotomy. Then our allegiance is reinforced by a litany of strawman arguments presented against the other side.

The truth is that both parties exist to enrich the rulers and provide them with limitless power. Meanwhile they satiate us with ideas that we have self governance and should be vested in the outcome of their staged elections. The issues we will be given to argue about are stupid, unsolvable, and irrelevant. The questions that should be asked and the decisions that should be made will never be considered because they would be injurious to the owners of the country.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '
')The foundational premise in American politics is the idea that Democrats and Republicans are different despite enacting virtually identical policies.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'H')ell, I even expect a McCain administration to be markedly different from the Bush administration simply because the Bush policy doesn't work and EVERYONE knows it.

[Roy]

[Hawkcreek]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')ust because one rapist prefers missionary and another doggy, that doesn't make any of this consensual, and it sure doesn't make any of it anything I want to cooperate with. The salient point is not the miniscule changes between Bush and McCain, but the broad picture that we're all getting screwed.