[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'I')t's called a pellet boiler fueled with wood pellets. Fuel is 30 to 50% cheaper. It's a big hit in Europe.

[aahala2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '
')


We will probably tap it this coming winter if Obama is elected.....Obama has already said he'd tap the strategic petroleum reserve to bring down gasoline prices. That suggests he'll tap the 10 days worth of home heating oil supplies to bring down home heating oil prices too.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '[')
The problem is that heating bills will drag the middle class, which is NOT eligible for emergency programs like this, down to the poverty line.

[MarkJ]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', 'I')t's called a pellet boiler fueled with wood pellets. Fuel is 30 to 50% cheaper. It's a big hit in Europe.

[retiredguy]

About 80% of my heat comes from wood. I heat my woodworking shop with an outdoor-fired, air-circulating stove (Lil House). My house is heated with a small Jotul stove that now sits where the fireplace used to be.

For some time, I have been interested in micro co-gen systems. You know, systems that produce electricity with a combustion source and then use the waste heat for residential heating.

The only micro co-gen systems I've been able to find use NG as the fuel. Does anyone here know of a system that works with wood?

[Homesteader]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '[')
The problem is that heating bills will drag the middle class, which is NOT eligible for emergency programs like this, down to the poverty line.

[copious.abundance]

Looks like all those Marcellus Shale drillers are gonna be busy.

More oil demand destruction, too.

--> WSJ <--
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Ditching Oil, Converting to Gas
By JEREMY SINGER-VINE
August 13, 2008; Page D1

Suzanne and Dave Francione figured they could reduce their heating bill by $1,300 this winter by switching from oil to natural gas, so they called the utility company and plumbers. That was in May. Today, the couple is still waiting on their conversion, which won't be done until September because of a growing backlog of other Northeasterners desperate to abandon costly heating oil.

"We were watching the price of oil escalate" and determined that the winter heating-oil bill would hit $3,000, says Mr. Francione, a Needham, Mass., investment banker. "That's when we decided to convert."

[...]

But despite the upfront costs and uncertain payback period, natural-gas utilities and plumbers are reporting a flood of interest from residents in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and the six-state New England region. About eight million homes in the U.S. rely on heating oil, and 6.2 million are located in the Northeast.

[...]

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Homesteader', ' ') Good, you conceded the point that New England doesn't have any oil fields. So where will the funds come from?

[joeltrout]

I agree the Marcellus Shale could be a major player in the Northeast heating situation.

That and the Rocky Mountain Express pipeline.

joeltrout

[cube]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '.')...If the government is going to pony up money it should be towards permanently lower heating bills: super-insulation, geothermal heat pumps, etc... So much of the residents' heating bills is for heat that just escapes out of highly inefficient houses built with cheap oil in mind. For a while yet it should still be practical to heat with oil if houses (like the one I'm in) didn't leak like swiss cheese.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '.')...If the government is going to pony up money it should be towards permanently lower heating bills: super-insulation, geothermal heat pumps, etc... So much of the residents' heating bills is for heat that just escapes out of highly inefficient houses built with cheap oil in mind. For a while yet it should still be practical to heat with oil if houses (like the one I'm in) didn't leak like swiss cheese.

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he New England states may well have oil (or gas) in their offshore areas. You can pretend that possiblity doesn't exist, but nonetheless it does.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he New England states may well have oil (or gas) in their offshore areas. You can pretend that possiblity doesn't exist, but nonetheless it does.

[cube]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '.')..
Some colonials lived in small houses, but some colonial houses are very large, with 5-10 or more fireplaces scattered throughout the house. Visit Providence or Bristol or Boston or Nantucket or Charleston, SC and similar historic places on the east coast and you'll see some splendid old huge houses dating from the Colonial era .

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')Simmons makes a persuasive case that we should at least do some seismic and take a LOOK at the oil potential there.....and we haven't as yet.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '
')I think there's a HUGE misconception that advanced technology has resulted in a high density living arrangement.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')Simmons makes a persuasive case that we should at least do some seismic and take a LOOK at the oil potential there.....and we haven't as yet.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')silly and dishonest to claim there isn't any chance of oil fields being found offshore from Massachusetts.

[TheDude]

From the MMS: Atlantic Information

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')istorical Background

Ten oil and gas lease sales were held in the Atlantic between 1976 and 1983. Fifty-one (51) wells were drilled in the Atlantic OCS; five (5) Continental Offshore Stratigraphic Test (COST) wells between 1975 and 1979, and forty-six (46) industry wells between 1977 and 1984. Five wells offshore New Jersey had successful drillstem tests of natural gas and/or condensate and can be found in mid Atlantic wells. These five wells were abandoned as non-commercial. A summary document of the eight exploratory wells drilled in the North Atlantic is currently available. Reports on each of the eight exploratory and two COST wells drilled in the North Atlantic Planning Area are available and reports on ten of the thirty-four (34) wells drilled in the Mid Atlantic Planning Area available in this release.

[cube]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '
')I think there's a HUGE misconception that advanced technology has resulted in a high density living arrangement.