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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby Specop_007 » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 13:04:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Byron100', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '3')rd picture down....

Why the hell does that guy have a Cat excavator in his backyard? And how the hell does he get it out to use it??


Prolly putting in a swimming pool..saw a lot of that in south Florida too. They just remove a section of fence to get it in and out of the yard if there's not enough room between houses. Pretty crazy when you think about it, huh?

One question I'd like to pose: What in the f*ck do all these people do? Besides the hotels/casinos, what other jobs are there? A few in government, but not nearly enough to absorb the huge influx of new residents. Seriously, this city has doubled, if not tripled in size since I was there 11 years ago...are most of these folks retired or independently wealthy?

I sure wish someone would bring an army of "rainmen" (like the guy in Rainman) and drain those casinos dry. :twisted: Sure would serve 'em right for ripping off the public for all these years. But no fear - the fabled Strip will be filled with tumbleweeds soon enough...


Weird, that Cat could dig the hole out in a few hours. Doesnt make any sense to put the fence back in place....

But your explanation is the only possible one I could even think of, unless the guy just keeps a Cat in his backyard as a toy, like a swingset or something.
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby Byron100 » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 15:05:30

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Weird, that Cat could dig the hole out in a few hours. Doesnt make any sense to put the fence back in place....

But your explanation is the only possible one I could even think of, unless the guy just keeps a Cat in his backyard as a toy, like a swingset or something.


Looking at that again, I do think they got it back there along the side of the house, as it's a solid wall as opposed to a fence in the rear of the property.

I tell you what, I sure am glad to have my 3/4 acre of natural woodland instead of that teeny postage stamp lot. No pool, but I have access to the neighborhood pool, 5 min walk away.

Damn, I really do have it good. :-D
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby readfreak » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 16:41:31

I lived in Las Vegas from 1979 to 1989. I bought a house in 84 and it was a new housing development. At the time everyone in the neighborhood was putting in landscaping, trees lawns etc. A couple of weeks ago I googled the street view of my house and there wasn't a lawn, tree, plant or bush anywhere to be found. Every yard was dirt. I guess they don't have enough water for landscaping. They get electricity from Hoover dam. Most of the people moving there at the time were retired. They were selling expensive houses in LA and buying cheap houses in Vegas and using the rest of the money for retirement. I am glad I got out of there but now am living in northern Ca and have spent the last two weeks surrounded by fire. We are having water problems here too.
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby cudabachi » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 16:57:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'I') heard there were plans to build a high speed rail line form Los Angeles to Las Vegas. Call it what you want: mixed up priorities, wasted resources, denial, etc...


Plans? I think that the high speed rail line from LA to LV is a proposal that's been floated by U.S. Senate leader Harry Reid who is from Nevada.

Don't know how far the idea will get, if anywhere.
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby cudabachi » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 17:08:07

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Weird, that Cat could dig the hole out in a few hours. Doesnt make any sense to put the fence back in place....

But your explanation is the only possible one I could even think of, unless the guy just keeps a Cat in his backyard as a toy, like a swingset or something.


Looking at that again, I do think they got it back there along the side of the house, as it's a solid wall as opposed to a fence in the rear of the property.


I'd guess it was put there by a crane, and removed the same way. Even looks like the trailer that brought the CAT there is still parked alongside the fence.
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby timmac » Mon 07 Jul 2008, 20:05:56

As a 22 year resident of Vegas my self and a business owner I can answer most of your questions,, What do we all do for work,, well all those huge casino's on the strip employ around 10,000 people each and we have alot of large cassino's and alot of other smaller casino's as well,, there is alot of retired people that move here for the dry weather and little to no tax's,, many small manufactured compines have moved here because of little to no tax,, alot of compines have left Cali for Vegas,, alot of millionares and billionares own a home here,, even some Arab princes/kings from Arab oil countries own homes here,, alot of Hollywood elite and actors have homes here and the list goes on,, money flows easy and large in this town,, as the many layoffs and less tourest is not as large as one posted here,, tourism is only down about 5% and very few if any casino,s have laid any one off as of yet but time will tell,, airlines are bringing less people here every month and when gas gets to $6.00 per gal I think Vegas will really start to drop and the big layoffs will happen,, this is not the place to be in a great depresion, no food is growing here, our Lake Mead that we get 90% of our water is drying up and electric for our a/c is getting very expensive,, every thing here is trucked in and I mean every thing,, some signs are starting to show problems but not sure how far or long the problem will be as yet,, many people still come here to blow there hard earn money even millionares blow hundreds of thousands in 1 or 2 days here every day,, Vegas is big money and it has always been good to me as well but the furture does not look good,, but we do know how to change with the wind here fast and the casino's know how to give better comps such as gas cards and etc to keep people coming back.......... [33 million plus visitors every year just for Vegas alone, most states don't even get that many,, so if we were down 20% it is still alot of people]
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby Gazzatrone » Tue 08 Jul 2008, 16:17:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '3')rd picture down....

Why the hell does that guy have a Cat excavator in his backyard? And how the hell does he get it out to use it??


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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby frankthetank » Tue 08 Jul 2008, 21:54:07

On the flip side, if your willing to ride a scooter or a bicycle or somehow get a train ride back to the north, living in Vegas for Dec-Mar wouldn't be horrible. At least they won't have to worry about freezing to death (even though it does snow in Vegas on occasion). If our climate is flipping over to a colder cycle, i'm not sure how everyone can continue to stay up here all winter long (or afford to do that).

If its costing $5000 a winter to heat your house, it might be worth it to run south.
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby SMA » Sat 12 Jul 2008, 14:04:58

Those are some lovely pictures! Las Vegas is a marvelous place – they truly have made the desert blossom. I'm happy I visited a few years ago though 'cause I doubt I will get another chance.

The pictures also made me realize how much I love this lifestyle that is drawing it's last breaths right now. I also want to live in a warm place, drive a comfortable car and generally be surrounded with all the amenities of Western life. But that's not gonna happen I guess.
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby papafoo » Sat 12 Jul 2008, 17:38:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', 'F')rom what I've read resently, Vegas is hurting. Hotel attendence is down something like 20% and they are having huge layoffs. Vegas is a boom town and boom towns tend to go bust.


Well, this is interesting.

I am going this summer in LV for business, and it was difficult to find a room at a correct price. I couldn't even find room in the Hotel I wanted.

Plane tickets were also awfully expensive for the beginning of August.

I have heard the reason is that with the exchange rate of the dollar, many Europeans are flocking to LV in August.
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby timmac » Sun 13 Jul 2008, 02:01:10

Kingcoal wrote:
From what I've read resently, Vegas is hurting. Hotel attendence is down something like 20% and they are having huge layoffs. Vegas is a boom town and boom towns tend to go bust.



The above statment is wrong,,
Vegas has had little layoffs in the casino buisiness so far,, only down 5% max so far, some report only 2%,, things are starting to look as if it might get worse but as now it is still ok......

But if economy gets worse and gas price keeps climbing the way it has in the past year Vegas just might look like Detroit....
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby cube » Sun 13 Jul 2008, 03:52:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', 'T')he above statment is wrong,,
Vegas has had little layoffs in the casino buisiness so far,, only down 5% max so far, some report only 2%,, things are starting to look as if it might get worse but as now it is still ok......
It depends what your definition of "okay" is. I couldn't find any numbers for hotel attendance but the convention biz is definitely hurting:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')as Vegas has seen gambling revenues fall only once since 1970: in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 terror attacks they dropped 1 percent in 2002 from 2001. So far this year they've fallen 4 percent, the number of conventions held has dropped 10.4 percent
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby papafoo » Sun 13 Jul 2008, 04:41:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
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The conventions I am attending are still taking place and it seems that the hotels were full even earlier than usual.
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby timmac » Mon 14 Jul 2008, 02:50:43

cube wrote :
It depends what your definition of "okay" is.



I guess my definition is that Vegas is showing some signs of downwards in some areas but how far and how bad will it go no one knows as of yet,, You must understand from a long time resident as my self, Vegas has been growing like a rocket for so long now in construction, gaming, visitors, population, highways, etc, that the little slow down that has happen in the past year seem's so small compared to the huge growth over the years, Vegas still packs people in hotels even today but many are spending less, with 33 million visitors a year in Vegas alone a couple million less is not so bad from my point of view,, but how far will it continue to drop ??, I will keep you posted,, if Vegas economy goes down the drain than that is a sign that America is out of extra spending cash.........
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby cube » Mon 14 Jul 2008, 07:18:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('timmac', '.')..
I guess my definition is that Vegas is showing some signs of downwards in some areas but how far and how bad will it go no one knows as of yet,, You must understand from a long time resident as my self, Vegas has been growing like a rocket for so long now in construction, gaming, visitors, population, highways, etc, that the little slow down that has happen in the past year seem's so small compared to the huge growth over the years, Vegas still packs people in hotels even today but many are spending less, with 33 million visitors a year in Vegas alone a couple million less is not so bad from my point of view,, but how far will it continue to drop ??, I will keep you posted,, if Vegas economy goes down the drain than that is a sign that America is out of extra spending cash.........
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Collapse happens in slow motion, you have to give it time.
A seemingly innocent 2% drop / yr might not look bad until it's projected out 20 years into the future.
I think that's why so many people in mainstream media can't "see the problem". They only see what's happening today and think next year it will get better.....it won't.
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby 3aidlillahi » Mon 14 Jul 2008, 07:51:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ith Americans cutting back on luxuries, and the price of transport rocketing, the so-called "Vegas vacation" is facing the axe. This week, as the nation celebrated Independence Day, major hotels were taking stock of a fall in all-important room occupancy rates from their usually impressive 95 per cent levels to nearer 80 per cent.

More worryingly, new figures showed gambling revenue has also dropped – a further 3 per cent this month – starting a price war between worried firms anxious to lure punters back. Hotel rooms, which last year averaged $130 each, now go for less than $100 (£50).


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ther sectors of Las Vegas aren't looking too healthy, either. Attendance at conventions, which account for roughly a quarter of the city's income, dropped by 7 per cent this year as impoverished firms cut back on their delegations to recession-hit events such as the Homebuilders Convention.

"The current rate of overall unemployment in this state is 6.2 per cent, the highest since May 1994," said Jered McDonald, an economist with the Nevada Employment, Training and Rehabilitation Department. "Las Vegas seems to be getting the worst of it. Other parts [of the state] aren't so bad; in fact the gold-mining industry is booming, so the drop in employment in big metropolitan areas is actually bigger than that figure suggests.

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A state-wide 6.2 per cent unemployment rate (higher in the cities), 15% drop in hotel attendance per capacity, 3% drop in "gaming" revenues, 7% drop in conventions. All at $4/gas. Yeah, things are looking wonderful...compared to where they'll be in a few years.

You sound like an exec from a casino, trying to make everything sound so optimistic, despite what all of the numbers say. Pathetic.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
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If by "Detroit" you mean "the middle of the Sahara", then yeah, you're probably correct. Quick question: what are your attitudes about drinking your own urine and eating other humans?
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby frankthetank » Mon 14 Jul 2008, 23:59:39

Detroit is way more sustainable then that sandbox out in the desert.
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Re: Clueless in Las Vegas!

Unread postby timmac » Tue 15 Jul 2008, 01:49:58

3aidlillahi wrote :
A state-wide 6.2 per cent unemployment rate (higher in the cities), 15% drop in hotel attendance per capacity, 3% drop in "gaming" revenues, 7% drop in conventions. All at $4/gas. Yeah, things are looking wonderful...compared to where they'll be in a few years.

You sound like an exec from a casino, trying to make everything sound so optimistic, despite what all of the numbers say. Pathetic.


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most of that unemployment is from contruction workers and realty sells people,, our unemployment rate was always around 3-4% on avg when times where better,, most casino jobs are ok as of today and some are still hiring,, we have a new complex called city center the worlds largest most expensive site/condos/casino/shopping center ever built and it is going to need 12-15,000 employees in coming months,, you have had to live here in the past 20 some years to understand Vegas,, we have the worlds most tourist popualation, 33+ million each year just for Vegas and if we lost 5 million visitors that would still be larger than any where else,, I came here when there was only 600,000 people living here and now 2 million in just 22 years and 14 of the largest casino/hotels in the world and many other smaller ones as well and if you go out even tonite they will be full and people every where,, nobody ever thought Vegas would get this huge,, so if it slows down some thats ok by me because this town is very busy and to many people,, and my business is still growing and no sign of a slow down just high price gas but I am working that out with higher cost and smaller vans.. If shit really hits the fan I have a paid for motorhome with 150 gal of gas, 6 months of stored food and my motorcycle and lots of cash,, no worry here,, [Oregon will be in my sights]........
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