[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zeeea', 'I') really really want someone to prove me wrong lol

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hogan', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zeeea', 'I') didnt quote you when i said that ...so what makes you think I was talking to you ...hit a nerve did i lol And im not here to answer your questions if you are so blatantly ignorant There are plenty of links around the place you can work from and go from there like I have ... now if you have something interesting or intelligent to say on this feel free but if you are only going to start name calling and getting all upset go somewhere else ...id prefer practical discussion with relevent information ...not just peoples opinions ...

[mercurygirl]

It is pretty funny.

[leal]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'N')ext Tuesday.

[Ainan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hogan', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ainan', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ainan', 'O')h i think we have plenty of time before TSHTF, a good 5-10 years at least. Of course if you factor in the 'credit crunch' issue, it could be next year. :8O:

Many people here on PO.com are getting on a bit and I think they want the 'collapse'. They have lived good lives and (quite rightly) want to see this horrible system we live in destroyed. It clouds their judgement.

Of course you could quite reasonibly argue the fact I'm in my early 20s with no physical preperations yet clouds my judgement.

[californydreamin]

Economy is like a cactus that you stop watering today.

How long? A while. Doomed? Certainly. but we cannot see day to day and each day doesn't look any different from the day before.

You will prolly be more upset about the waiting time until you actually starve to death.
But you WILL starve to death. That is a given, it will take a few years.

[Heineken]

That's a good analogy, California, but remember that we're not talking about just the economy here. We're talking about all the bad stuff put together in a big greaseball.

Aldous Huxley wrote, "After many a summer dies the swan." The swan lives long and strong, but . . .

[jlw61]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zeeea', '
')
only a fool would disregard this without further investigation ...

...if you are so blatantly ignorant

...but if you are only going to start name calling...

[NoahsDove]

I'm not much of a gloom and doomer, but if US/Israel decides to launch an air strike over Iran we may see a major world economic crisis and spike in crude oil. Otherwise, I would say that US/World economy will survive. We may have to quickly adopt to nuclear, wind and solar energy, but I don't think it's going to be that bad. We'll also see many electric and hybrid cars on the road; bullet trains rather than airplanes as US begins to look more like Europe.


We may never see the type of economic growth that was achieved during the 20th century but most of the developed countries will still do pretty well. I'm afraid it will be the third world that will take the brunt of a major economic hit, as it always does.

[cannedsalmon]

Think positive:

Gas will never cost you more than what you are willing to pay.

AND

If you are richer than your neighbors and willing to pay more, you will ALWAYS have gas, so stop worrying.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cannedsalmon', 'T')hink positive:

Gas will never cost you more than what you are willing to pay.

AND

If you are richer than your neighbors and willing to pay more, you will ALWAYS have gas, so stop worrying.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NoahsDove', 'I')'m not much of a gloom and doomer, but if US/Israel decides to launch an air strike over Iran we may see a major world economic crisis and spike in crude oil. Otherwise, I would say that US/World economy will survive. We may have to quickly adapt to nuclear, wind and solar energy, but I don't think it's going to be that bad. We'll also see many electric and hybrid cars on the road; bullet trains rather than airplanes as US begins to look more like Europe.

We may never see the type of economic growth that was achieved during the 20th century but most of the developed countries will still do pretty well. I'm afraid it will be the third world that will take the brunt of a major economic hit, as it always does.

[Heineken]

What BigTex said.

The US will never "look like Europe." We had our chance to go that route, but we chose the stupid path we chose, and now we're stuck with an infinitude of cheap-fuel-dependent infrastructure and all those industries and institutions dedicated to serving it. We're essentially bankrupt and don't have the money to "look like Europe." No magic makeover is possible.

[Cashmere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NoahsDove', 'I')'m not much of a gloom and doomer, but if US/Israel decides to launch an air strike over Iran we may see a major world economic crisis and spike in crude oil. Otherwise, I would say that US/World economy will survive. We may have to quickly adopt to nuclear, wind and solar energy, but I don't think it's going to be that bad. We'll also see many electric and hybrid cars on the road; bullet trains rather than airplanes as US begins to look more like Europe.


We may never see the type of economic growth that was achieved during the 20th century but most of the developed countries will still do pretty well. I'm afraid it will be the third world that will take the brunt of a major economic hit, as it always does.

[lotrfan55345]

Don't worry, people will be watching TV and internetting until the lights go off for good. Or even after that.

[Mominator]

Speaking of watching TV. . . I read this whole thread a few days ago and 2012 kept sticking in my head. I'm feeling antsy. THEN, today I try turning on the TV and it's on the History channel and some special about TEOTWAWKI and all they do is reference 2012 over and over and over again and how many people and things predict 2012 to be. . .bad. I don't really put stock in such shows or notions, but it was weird and creepy and I am vulnerable. LOL
So, this number is burned into my brain now

Oh, and when DH got home he turned on the tv and IT WAS ON AGAIN.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mominator', 'S')peaking of watching TV. . . I read this whole thread a few days ago and 2012 kept sticking in my head. I'm feeling antsy. THEN, today I try turning on the TV and it's on the History channel and some special about TEOTWAWKI and all they do is reference 2012 over and over and over again and how many people and things predict 2012 to be. . .bad. I don't really put stock in such shows or notions, but it was weird and creepy and I am vulnerable. LOL
So, this number is burned into my brain now

Oh, and when DH got home he turned on the tv and IT WAS ON AGAIN.

[Heineken]

One thing's for sure: by 2012 there will be less oil. Less NG. Less coal. Less topsoil, less potable water, less glacial ice, less forested land, less fish and wildlife, less . . . anything useful. MORE population pressures. MORE heat, drought, flood, and other disaster.

LESS good stuff, MORE bad stuff.

Nothing can stop these trends, apparently. I am still waiting for ANY significant positive developments that are more than hype, propaganda, marketing ploys, or window dressing.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'O')ne thing's for sure: by 2012 there will be less oil. Less NG. Less coal. Less topsoil, less potable water, less glacial ice, less forested land, less fish and wildlife, less . . . anything useful. MORE population pressures. MORE heat, drought, flood, and other disaster.

LESS good stuff, MORE bad stuff.

Nothing can stop these trends, apparently. I am still waiting for ANY significant positive developments that are more than hype, propaganda, marketing ploys, or window dressing.