Hello,
I'm some what new to this forum. But my time reading books and dealing with new Technologies has been heavy. I think we are past "Peak Oil" and are now becoming cost effective. With E85 and other automotive technologies pushing into are cars. Data estimated for a future of less is not being seen. I hope to get this going for everone to think about. Problem with E85 is your growing the fuel. If a drought like Australia's hits. You don't know the repro of this problem. Electric cars were a great lose {See the movie (Who killed the Electic car) soon} to the future. E85 has a short fall, no corn, no fuel. Thank God this is a good year.
Also the failure of not using OHC fuel injection system (in Perth, Australia) was a major lost to effiecence. 10% more horsepower and 8 % better gas mileage.
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Has Peak Oil happen already?
Has Peak Oil happen already?
by Anadultmale » Tue 14 Aug 2007, 21:49:26
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Re: Has Peak Oil happen already?
by PraiseDoom » Tue 14 Aug 2007, 23:30:48
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Anadultmale', 'H')ello, I'm some what new to this forum. But my time reading books and dealing with new Technologies has been heavy. I think we are past "Peak Oil" and are now becoming cost effective.
Yes, its already happened. 1 or 2 years ago, depending on who's numbers you used.
As it has been pointed out around here, apparently only poor countries have noticed. Those of us who are believers in the Church Of Doom are disappointed. No one likes it when the optimists turn out to be right.
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Re: Has Peak Oil happen already?
by pigleg » Tue 14 Aug 2007, 23:32:23
Yes, there's some interesting new technology coming along now that it is more cost effective and I suppose some of the incremental efficiency increases could help somewhat. However I think the consensus is that Ethanol is barely worthwhile in terms of net energy gain (not to mention subject to crop failures as you point out), and that the vehicle fleet will take 10-15 years to wear out and replace with newer models. Or that the best solution is to eliminate the car altogether, though I don't think you can write off the electric car just yet.
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Re: Has Peak Oil happen already?
by DarthBruder » Tue 14 Aug 2007, 23:33:55
I have been lurking here for quite some time and only joined to reply to your post.
My urgent reply is this:
This topic has been discussed at great length and in great detail in these forums.
Those discussions are easy to find.......for most people.
If you can't find them, I'll sum them up: we're f**ked, plant a garden.
My urgent reply is this:
This topic has been discussed at great length and in great detail in these forums.
Those discussions are easy to find.......for most people.
If you can't find them, I'll sum them up: we're f**ked, plant a garden.
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Re: Has Peak Oil happen already?
by mgtser » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 03:06:57
have we past peaked? it doesnt matter
we know its Inevitable
remember what pippin said: I don't want to be in a battle. But waiting on the edge of one I can't escape is even worse.
and so we wait...
we know its Inevitable
remember what pippin said: I don't want to be in a battle. But waiting on the edge of one I can't escape is even worse.
and so we wait...
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Re: Has Peak Oil happen already?
by BigTex » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 17:35:04
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gideon', 'W')elcome to PeakOil.com
If English is not your first language, then you have learned English very well.
If English is your first language, then please note that your bizarro writing style makes your post virtually indecipherable and certainly painful to read.
If English is not your first language, then you have learned English very well.
If English is your first language, then please note that your bizarro writing style makes your post virtually indecipherable and certainly painful to read.
I was picturing David Bowie's character in The Man Who Fell to Earth as I was reading Anudultmale's post.
Anudultmale, welcome to the forum. Spend some time reading other posts; there is an amazing amount of information here on the issues you raised.
RE ethanol--it's a dead end. Might as well start eating our crops again.
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Re: Has Peak Oil happen already?
by cube » Wed 15 Aug 2007, 21:33:07
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pigleg', 't')hough I don't think you can write off the electric car just yet.
Battery Prices Up 15-20 Pct From Today$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '-')- The prices of automotive batteries will go up by between 15 percent and 20 percent, depending on the models, effective Thursday due to rising lead prices, Battery Manufacturers Association of Malaysia said.
Its president, Chow Siew Hon, said the price of lead, one of the major components in the battery, had increased by 591 percent compared with US$467 (US$1=RM3.45) in June 2003.
Why is the price of lead metal going up?
Is it because of lead acid battery EV car conversions or just an increase in the Global number of cars thanks to Chindia? The primary commercial use for lead of course is in making batteries.
Would we hit "peak lead" if everybody started driving lead acid battery EV cars?
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