[phaster]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('swingbolder', 'W')elcome unscom, I've been on PO for a coupla years although I rarely post anymore. Yeah there are a lot of people around here who hate on us black folks and that gets tedious but there's a lot of good info to be had so that's why I stick around.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('usncom', 'I') want to hope for a bright future and that we will all just hold hands into the post peak oil sunset singing Kumbaya

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', 'u')sncom, you are about to find out the hard way that PO.com is populated with a veritable WASP nest of afro-haters.
Don't let them drive you away.

[pedalling_faster]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('usncom', 'I') want to hope for a bright future and that we will all just hold hands into the post peak oil sunset singing Kumbaya but some of the doomer posts I've seen on the "other PO site" give me grave doubts.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pedalling_faster', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('usncom', 'I') want to hope for a bright future and that we will all just hold hands into the post peak oil sunset singing Kumbaya but some of the doomer posts I've seen on the "other PO site" give me grave doubts.

[Cashmere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')urthermore, I don't dispute your statistics Cashmere but just about all the black people I know want the same things that we all want. They want good heathcare, safe neighborhoods, oppourtunities for our children, and etc. The difference between you and me Casmere is that I don't get my whole perception of a whole race based on statistics and MSM.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', 'u')sncom, you are about to find out the hard way that PO.com is populated with a veritable WASP nest of afro-haters.

Don't let them drive you away.

[big_rc]

Can we please have a debate on this site about race without somebody on this site telling black people how utterly horrible they are? I'm sorry if you think what you "know" about black people is reality. I cannot do anything to help you dispel that. Just chill out OK. Let's have a civil discussion without falling back on tired stereotypes to help you prove your point.

Now with that said, welcome Unscom. To answer your original post, there is not going to be a specific AA experience. Peak Oil is going to hit every single American upside the head. Forget about race war, its going to be 100% class warfare in this country.

In many ways I think the poor might get off easier than the rich simply because they are used to making due without the STUFF that surrounds typical American existence. I'm more scared of the middle class in this country. Once middle class people really understand they are debt slaves and can't buy they American dream anymore, then that is when TSHTF in this country.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')an we please have a debate on this site about race without somebody on this site telling black people how utterly horrible they are? I'm sorry if you think what you "know" about black people is reality. I cannot do anything to help you dispel that. Just chill out OK. Let's have a civil discussion without falling back on tired stereotypes to help you prove your point.

[big_rc]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'A')s for "Peak Oil" from an "African American" perspective, two things are going to be made very clear in the next 10 years . . .

Black Africans are doomed. Those who haven't already returned to a barely-living starvation lifestyle are going to be there soon. The horrible ethnic violence that plagues that continent will get much worse. Any small pockets of humanity resembling civilization will be gone.

[big_rc]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')an we please have a debate on this site about race without somebody on this site telling black people how utterly horrible they are? I'm sorry if you think what you "know" about black people is reality. I cannot do anything to help you dispel that. Just chill out OK. Let's have a civil discussion without falling back on tired stereotypes to help you prove your point.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('big_rc', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')an we please have a debate on this site about race without somebody on this site telling black people how utterly horrible they are? I'm sorry if you think what you "know" about black people is reality. I cannot do anything to help you dispel that. Just chill out OK. Let's have a civil discussion without falling back on tired stereotypes to help you prove your point.

[big_rc]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('big_rc', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')an we please have a debate on this site about race without somebody on this site telling black people how utterly horrible they are? I'm sorry if you think what you "know" about black people is reality. I cannot do anything to help you dispel that. Just chill out OK. Let's have a civil discussion without falling back on tired stereotypes to help you prove your point.

[BigTex]

Please continue this good discussion, but some of these insults are unprovoked and gratuitous.

People who don't like each other can still be civil. Can we try that approach?

Thanks.

[big_rc]

I am black and was raised in the Deep South around a number of different people of all races and classes. What always amazed me when I was around lower income people was that even though the blacks didn't like the whites and were perpetually hung up on race and the whites didn't like the blacks and were perpetually hung up on race, there were a TON of similarities (especially things like religion and cutural beliefs). Both groups felt that it was the other group that was the "cause" of their misery. Identity politics have been used perfectly to pit both sides against each other. When these two groups who have historically been at each others throat come together then it is going to be hell on an upper middle class person such as myself. That's why the whole class issue scares the beejesus out of me.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('big_rc', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('big_rc', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')an we please have a debate on this site about race without somebody on this site telling black people how utterly horrible they are? I'm sorry if you think what you "know" about black people is reality. I cannot do anything to help you dispel that. Just chill out OK. Let's have a civil discussion without falling back on tired stereotypes to help you prove your point.

[Cashmere]

big=rc, I don't buy your apologist approach to this, and your assessment of Africa is hilarious.

Africans have a sense of community and everybody knows how to farm?

Good luck to you, sir, and may your predictions come true.

[Kingcoal]

Black people have survived for longer than white people; after all, whites are descended from blacks who left Africa to populate the world. I see no reason why blacks will not survive after peak oil. Things will change, that is for sure, but all ethnic groups will face change.

In fact, a case could be made that upper middle class whites will be hit the hardest, after all, they depend on the oil driven economy for their wealth. When you have little to begin with, you have little to lose. I expect to see the government continuing its role as provider of last result. Being able to live on very little will be a good skill to have.

I am white, my fiance is black. I am very familiar with many of the pathologies that affect blacks disproportionately. However, we are all cousins, distant, long separated cousins, but the whole of humanity has so little real genetic diversity compared to the rest of the wild life on this planet, the term cousin is a good one. All humans living today can be traced back to a tribe that lived in Ethiopia 200K years ago. The pathologies that manifest in the black communities hurt blacks far more than any other race. The problem is that the government has trained several generations to be "professional victims," i.e.; the more pathetic they make themselves be, the more money and other benefits they qualify for. I think that deep post peak, there will be such a huge need for help from the government, that the government will no longer have the luxury of just paying people to do nothing and be pathetic. The rest of the country's population simply won't stand for it anymore.

Blacks will survive post peak - they've been through worse.

[RedStateGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('big_rc', ' ')When these two groups who have historically been at each others throat come together then it is going to be hell on an upper middle class person such as myself. That's why the whole class issue scares the beejesus out of me.

[BigTex]

Industrialization and the fossil fuel era have not been kind to black people, though the last 50 years have been better.

Prior to that (prior to, say 1750), I don't know what life was like for black people worldwide (it might have sucked then too, I just don't know).