[nvrpc]

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[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nvrpc', '[')b]A good leader could get the job done if he'd just bypass congress, senate and give the middle finger to the oil companies.

[Windmills]

You define dictators as good leaders? I'd rather take my chances with a democratic system than make another repeat of the historically endlessly attempted "enlightened despot." There will be enough pressure to savage our civil liberties as it is. It will be hard to fight those forces. We certainly don't need to just give it all away willingly. I'm sure there are some desperate people in Burma that would agree.

[nvrpc]

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[Ivan_M]

That would have been a great attitude to have 20-odd years ago. unfortunately we passed right by "hey guys, this is a problem. we should get on that" and are now somewhere in the vicinity of "HOLY S***!!!! HANG ON!!!!"

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nvrpc', 'T')hat being the case I hope you all enjoy you $6-$7 a gallon at the pump. Enjoy. The sad part is I have to go down with you, but that's okay I am ready for a depression. Bring it on. yes I am all for presidents like we use to have in this country who signed orders to build the highway system, the railroads, hoover dam. yeap they were really dictators weren't they. You people are a joke.

[FreedomSlave]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nvrpc', 'T')hat being the case I hope you all enjoy you $6-$7 a gallon at the pump. Enjoy. The sad part is I have to go down with you, but that's okay I am ready for a depression. Bring it on. yes I am all for presidents like we use to have in this country who signed orders to build the highway system, the railroads, hover damn. yeap they were really ditactors weren't they. You people are a joke.

[MonteQuest]

Get off oil? Are you kidding?

We import 60% of our oil today. And contrary to media hype, we only import about 17% from the Middle East. Most of our oil comes from Canada and Mexico. Hardly terrorist nations.

By 2025, we will import 68% of our oil.

The most that renewable energies can do is slow the rate of growth of our dependence upon oil, imported or otherwise.

We will never get off oil until the EROEI to use it is<1

In a scarce oil world, a massive Manhattan style project to construct wind, direct solar, geothermal, ocean or tide energy systems would be new energy consumers until the fossil fuel energy required to build them was paid back and they became net energy producers.

The cost will be huge.

Wind turbine costs are already rising.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he price of offshore turbines rose 48 percent to 2.23 million euros ($3.45 million) per megawatt in the past three years, according to BTM Consult APS, a Danish wind power consultant. By comparison, land-based rotors cost 1.38 million euros per megawatt after rising 74 percent in the same period.

[mmasters]

Perhaps we'll have to lower our tolerances some as the site has been exposed to the general public...

[Ivan_M]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'P')erhaps we'll have to lower our tolerances some as the site has been exposed to the general public.

[Cashmere]

No doubt - it's like we've been overrun by a bunch of naked babies all screaming incoherently.

I miss the ol' PeakOil.Com already.

[nvrpc]

Like I said you guys are a joke. I hope gas goes to $10.00 a gallon and then maybe you'll wake up. Stand by people, just keep thinking you can sit there and do nothing an all will be well. It wasn't people like you that make America a nice place to live in. Enjoy talking to yourselves. See yah clowns later.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nvrpc', 'L')ike I said you guys are a joke. I hope gas goes to $10.00 a gallon and then maybe you'll wake up. Stand by people, just keep thinking you can sit there and do nothing an all will be well. It wasn't people like you that make America a nice place to live in. Enjoy talking to yourselves. See yah clowns later.

[Cashmere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DSE Newb', 'L')ike I said you guys are a joke. I hope gas goes to $10.00 a gallon and then maybe you'll wake up.