[Ferretlover]

Perhaps we are looking at this the wrong way.
What if the 8 million are the Keepers?

[BigTex]

Here are a few thoughts:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'I') think the eventual trigger will be food and gas riots

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'W')hat will the gas rioters be demanding? Against whom will they be rioting? A lot of the people who traditionally lead riots don't own cars in the first place.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', ' ')And cheap video cameras weren't around to capture the moment.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'H')ow do you see it unfolding, SPG? A single triggering event, multiple, or just a slow boil gradually gathering steam and a social explosion?

[Micki]

The other day in Rense; $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')arper's magazine investigative reporter Christopher Ketcham says that the federal government's secret "Continuity in Governance" program is much more than a contingency plan to provide safe havens for high government officials during a national crisis. After interviewing half a dozen former government officials with direct knowledge of the program, he was left with the impression that it was also about using a national emergency to justify rounding up potential dissidents who oppose government power.

[FreeRanger57]

Hello, I am new to the site and find the conversation interesting!

Some one wrote: “Before things get quite so bad, the government will almost certainly blame some group for engineering the hardship, and those people are likely to be rounded up and offered to the consumers as a human sacrifice. Oil speculators seem to be the present scape goat, but it will probably soon turn more towards ethnic and religious lines, Arab, Muslim, etc. We saw a bit of it after 911 with Guantanamo, but as inconvenience turns to true hardship, the consumers will grow restless. Their thirst for blood will grow, and they will need to be appeased with greater regularity. It's quite conceivable that any variety of dissident groups could be used offered up: environmental "radicals", anarchists, communists, religious minorities, etc.”

In response to your hypothetical: just one trigger could be a failed attempt by a certain political entity to obtain power and followers feeling slighted – perception of an-other Bush – Gore episode. Could make Rodney King event seem tame! = 8 million reasons for a riot induced by a foreign sleeper cell.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FreeRanger57', 'I')n response to your hypothetical: just one trigger could be a failed attempt by a certain political entity to obtain power and followers feeling slighted – perception of an-other Bush – Gore episode.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'I') don't think we're near that point just yet. Once Africa and parts of Asia have seen a 50% population decline due to starvation, start looking for it here. Desperation breeds rash action. People here aren't desperate. Far from it. Once the homeless camps start building numbers, and enough people have put their kids to bed hungry enough times, I think it's going to explode.

[FreeRanger57]

The power of persuasion is a funny thing when you feel like you are the being oppressed or how ever else you want to play on words. I am just a realist, not a racist!

Are you talking oil (A hiccup in how we get around?, let’s cap ours and use up theirs at the cheapest possible price first?) i.e. naval blockade, Tactical-aerial, take no prisoners, no need to incarcerate-some one else will clean up the mess.

Or 8 million incarcerated in the US. If you are talking about the US and martial law, you need to look at the highest % of incarcerated now and add to that number = 8 million.

I have been to countries that where under martial law and they don’t incarcerate you for long, at least not 8 million. It takes too many resources to control such a situation.

It doesn’t take much to set off a mob mentality, when all it takes is a single binding belief that can be leveraged! Be it color, religion, belief in a cause etc. especially if you can identify and relate. I will refer to this as the Al-Sadr effect! All it takes is cold hard cash, not just oil. By the way, regarding the rating of a lump of coal? The US has an abundant amount of Coal which can also be converted into multiple sources of clean energy if approached in a logical way.

[municipal]

They should just make a law to always detain everyone. This gives the people the appropriate idea of who is in charge plus you woulde have to hire tons of new deatainers that get paid 50 bucks an hour (sons, daughters cousins and uncles georges)

great way to make a job that isnt needed but will only magnify opportunity for nepotism.
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Magnify nepotistic opportunities..

[Pamule-a]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'I') don't think we're near that point just yet. Once Africa and parts of Asia have seen a 50% population decline due to starvation, start looking for it here. Desperation breeds rash action. People here aren't desperate. Far from it. Once the homeless camps start building numbers, and enough people have put their kids to bed hungry enough times, I think it's going to explode.

[Pamule-a]

Where would the US put 8 million? Have you heard about the jails Hollyburton is building on the Mexican boarder?

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pamule-a', 'W')here would the US put 8 million? Have you heard about the jails Hollyburton is building on the Mexican boarder?

[Denny]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pamule-a', 'W')here would the US put 8 million? Have you heard about the jails Hollyburton is building on the Mexican boarder?

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'I') guess you'll also have to come up with some new lines for the national anthem, to replace these awkward ones, which won't set in well with the psyches of those at the prison camps, either inmates or guards:
"O'er the land of the free
And the home of the brave"

[Micki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') have been to countries that where under martial law and they don’t incarcerate you for long, at least not 8 million. It takes too many resources to control such a situation.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Micki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') have been to countries that where under martial law and they don’t incarcerate you for long, at least not 8 million. It takes too many resources to control such a situation.

[BigTex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pamule-a', 'W')here would the US put 8 million? Have you heard about the jails Hollyburton is building on the Mexican boarder?

[Micki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')idn't they burn em 1st, then figure out it's cheaper to gas em instead?