[virgincrude]

It looks like the world's food problems will be 'wrapped up' nicely by the same corporations that are busy employing most of your politicians in the U.S, and hard at work ensuring the World Famine spreads, while storing up for their heirs, the (non GM) seeds in Alaska....
Codex Google Video

Go here if you're concerned (and awake)

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[The_Virginian]

I always thought it was to control how much medication we got in the water.


Vitamins and supplements are certainly at risk, as for the food; Won't liver and kidney damaging GM foods do the job nicely?

[virgincrude]

Should have known you'd be a few steps ahead, Raph you picked up on this in 2007 ... It is due to come into full global force in 2009/10 After that, you can guarrantee you won't be able to buy NON-irradiated foods, you won't be able to buy hormone free meat, truley organic produce, hormone free milk, non-GM herbs/vegetables/pulses/cereals.

Not only that, but you can rest assured that you and your loved ones shall be subjected to higher doses of pesticides, and all those lovely petroleum derived chemicals known to cause genetic and hormonal abnormalities will be guarranteed to be on your dinner plate and in your favourite juice/smoothy .... even in your baby food.

If I were in the United States I would be doing my damndest to get out of there. Short of that, I would be busy spreading information and whipping up a storm. This IS NOT INEVITABLE. You can do something about it, but you have to wake up first and take back control over your decisions and life.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('virgincrude', 'Y')ou can do something about it, but you have to wake up first and take back control over your decisions and life.

[jupiters_release]

One of the most disturbing codex developments is the buy out of established organic seed producers to spread gmo.

Link

[greenworm]

That is why fedco dropped seminis. The restrictions to organic growing are laxed, if you can't find a particular germaplasm that is organic certified and only a non-organic seed company carries that variety you are allowed to use it. There are plenty of growers who have prepared for this and are fighting this, but genetic trespassing is a serious issue.

[bodigami]

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Go here if you're concerned (and awake)

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[virgincrude]

Ludi: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat would you "do about it"?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('virgincrude', 'S')orry, but your question seems so stupid ....

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', 'I') think creating personal and community seed banks, and learning how to grow and save seed from these plants now, while we have a chance, is a more effective response to the problem than contacting our "representatives" and other such political efforts. Personal responsibility for our own survival and health, basically. Of course, there's no reason we can't do both.

[virgincrude]

Shanny and Ludi and those who think that way: I too am deeeeeply cynical of getting satisfaction through democratic means (i.e contacting your local representative) but I'm ready to be persuaded otherwise, and Rebecca Solnit chronicles a number of successes which were never on the front page. In her book "Hope In the Dark" she elegantly maps the victories wrangled by social movements and pressure from the public. Those victories rarely look like what we expect, but they are nver the less victories. And they happen incrementally, over time. Remember those women shouting and waving placards that said: Women Have The Right To Vote? ... neither do I, but where would we be without their efforts?

If you ignore the established processes, they will ignore you, too. And one day you'll find there are no more seeds to go around, and the food police have confiscated the farmer's market, because it doesn't follow the government guidelines which crept in to place while you were tending your organic patch. Please, do BOTH, even if you don't believe any body truly represents you.

[Ludi]

I generally try to write to my "representatives" when there is relevant legislation being considered. But just writing them out of the blue about an issue for which there is no legislation pending will be a complete waste of time (or even more of one).

[mmasters]

Yup, with all the shit coming this will slip in mostly unnoticed. Becoming a nightmare world and so few can accurately envision what's coming.

[virgincrude]

Ludi, did you actually watch the clip? Or visit the web site? Because, although I really do agree with you up to a point, you seem to be giving up before you've even made an effort. The site is carrying out ongoing, continuous lobbying, you can't wait until some piece of legislature is ripe and ready. You should be bringing it to the boil, drumming up awareness. Somewhere in that video, she says one email or fax counts as 13.000 opinions. You may bet your rep has probably never even heard of the Codex, let alone able to pronounce it. What does it take to send one email, every week?

mmasters, I share your view of the world, from what I can gleane from your posts. But I've also had a recent epiphany and come to realise I am in love with my gloomish negative view. I used to fall into the category of those who specialise in disappointment, nurturing resentment, born of defeatism and displaying it as cynicism and knowingness. I used to accept defeat as inevitable, and by knowing my goals were bound for the bucket, I would then bask in the self satisfaction of having made my effort and positioning myself as a noble loser. And so these days when I see someone write: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ecoming a nightmare world and so few can accurately envision what's coming.

[Ludi]

I visited the website, and quoted the relevant page.

I'm certainly not "giving up."

Dang.

[virgincrude]

Shanny:$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') am not being negative by saving and planting seeds, nor am I wallowing in superior knowledge of imminent slavery. That's a rather bold accusation you made, there.

[mmasters]

We all have our down moments.