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Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby dukey » Sat 10 May 2008, 12:37:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ELISSA, Tx —Mark Robinson was driving through downtown Melissa last week when he was pulled over for failing the use his turn signal.
But instead of getting a ticket, the officer took the 24-year-old to jail.
He was booked, strip searched, and sat for 3 hours with criminals. “People talking about using drugs and shooting heroine. They asked me what I was in there for and I said a turn signal violation,” said Robinson.
There aren’t any warrants out for Robinson. In fact he says he’s never been in jail. But he does admit to challenging the officer’s questions during the stop.

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Nice to know the police are stopping crime
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby Ferretlover » Sat 10 May 2008, 14:00:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ELISSA, Tx — Mark Robinson was driving through downtown Melissa last week when he was pulled over for failing the use his turn signal. ...


Getting pretty cocky about being omniscient, aren't they (police). Did you see that news clip about those 15 cops beating and kicking the stuffing out of those three suspected criminals the other day?
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby Denny » Sat 10 May 2008, 14:57:34

There are always two sides to every story. I'd like to hear or read the officer's version. Somehow, I doubt we are seeing the dawn of a fascist state in Melissa TX.
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Sat 10 May 2008, 18:18:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'T')here are always two sides to every story. I'd like to hear or read the officer's version. Somehow, I doubt we are seeing the dawn of a fascist state in Melissa TX.

No, the pig was probably pissed that his wife is fucking everyone in the neighborhood and wanted to take it out on someone.

EDIT: to be fair I don't know the entire story but I do know that some cops get off on be authoritarian and pushing the public around.
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 10 May 2008, 18:51:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')e was booked, strip searched, and sat for 3 hours with criminals. “People talking about using drugs and shooting heroine. They asked me what I was in there for and I said a turn signal violation,” said Robinson.

Nice to know the police are stopping crime
(lol)
This reminds me of Arlo Guthrie's epic Alice's Restaurant:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd I, I walked over to the, to the bench there, and there is, Group W's where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the
bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me and said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay $50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"
And I said, "Littering." And they all moved away from me on the bench there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I said, "And creating a nuisance." And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing, father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the bench.

The moral of the turn signal story is, of course, don't 'cop' an attitude. Don't spit into the wind, don't pull the mask off that ol' Lone Ranger and don't mess around with cops. If you have a problem with authority figures, control it and not a one of them will throw your ass in jail for failure to use a turn signal.
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Sat 10 May 2008, 19:05:25

Basically the stupid fucker got smart with a cop who was just doing his job, he copped at attitude, the cop probably had a bad day and decided to teach the stupid wet behind the ears fucker a listen.
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Sun 11 May 2008, 00:45:44

This, ladies and gentlemen, is why it is a 100% certainty that America is decending into a police state.

It's not because of the incessant sprawl of federal "authority". It's not because of the arrogant "enforcement" officers.

It's the obsequious toads that will find any excuse to defend them.
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Sun 11 May 2008, 02:22:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', 'T')his, ladies and gentlemen, is why it is a 100% certainty that America is decending into a police state.
It's not because of the incessant sprawl of federal "authority". It's not because of the arrogant "enforcement" officers.
It's the obsequious toads that will find any excuse to defend them.

There is a big fucking difference between a police state and a cop having a little fun with a smart ass
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Sun 11 May 2008, 02:37:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', 'T')his, ladies and gentlemen, is why it is a 100% certainty that America is decending into a police state.
It's not because of the incessant sprawl of federal "authority". It's not because of the arrogant "enforcement" officers.
It's the obsequious toads that will find any excuse to defend them.

There is a big fucking difference between a police state and a cop having a little fun with a smart ass

Where do you draw the line?

That cop is wasting tax money and the already over strained criminal justice systems time. This petty shit is stupid use of public resources.

Mouthing off because of a turn signal violation, who wouldn't?
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Sun 11 May 2008, 02:41:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', 'T')his, ladies and gentlemen, is why it is a 100% certainty that America is decending into a police state.
It's not because of the incessant sprawl of federal "authority". It's not because of the arrogant "enforcement" officers.
It's the obsequious toads that will find any excuse to defend them.

There is a big fucking difference between a police state and a cop having a little fun with a smart ass

Exactly!

I am nothing but polite when it comes to my interactions with law enforcement. The result is that I don't get tickets.

My traffic record is flawless (except for that minor accident we never reported but that doesn't count for the official record)

If you want to turn every single traffic violation into a federal case, knock yourself out.

Police have a very hard job. Mostly because they have deal with jackasses like the man in this story.

In case you missed the line:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]But he does admit to challenging the officer's questions during the stop.

Would anyone like to speculate as to what actually happened here?
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Sun 11 May 2008, 03:36:02

Well, there is always the question as to where the infraction occurred.

In a large majority of jurisdictions any "choice" made by a driver requires that you "signal" your intent to other drivers. Even in the case of chooing to veer (not turn) off to the right to change roads.

But since the reasoning behind using a signal is to clearly communicate your intent/actions to other motorists, some would argue that it isn't strictly necessary for others to know that is what you are doing to avoid an accident when there are not cars in your immediate vicinity.

Therre are a lot of grey areas. By that definition does changing lanes when there are no cars around (ie: close to you) constitute an infraction. and what about head lights. at what point should you dim your highbeams for oncoming traffic: the minute you see them or once they are within 500 meters.
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Sun 11 May 2008, 04:06:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ColossalContrarian', 'M')outhing off because of a turn signal violation, who wouldn't?

Someone with fucking common sense. They have the power and you don't. The simple fact is, if you are stupid enough to mouth off to a guy who has guns, mace, and stunguns on his person, then you are a fucking idiot.

You go along to get alone until what is done against you is actually severe, getting a ticket for a few bucks is not severe.
Personally, I think the fucking idiot had it coming.
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Sun 11 May 2008, 10:01:25

What kind of country do we live in where you can’t challenge LEO? Have you heard of the Bill of Rights?
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby dukey » Sun 11 May 2008, 10:05:17

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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Sun 11 May 2008, 10:11:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'I')n case you missed the line:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]But he does admit to challenging the officer's questions during the stop.

Would anyone like to speculate as to what actually happened here?

This is all I can find on the subject:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n fact News 8 contacted various cities in Collin County, many of which have not made a single arrest this year for not using a turning signal. Even the police chief in Melissa acknowledges he's never seen this happen in his own city. “In the 6 years I've been the police chief, this is the first time,” said Chief Duane Smith, Melissa PD.
But he stands behind his officer, saying state law gives him the power to arrest someone for many crimes, no matter how minor.
“I can't discuss the specifics of the case. The officer was in his right to arrest the person, which he did,” said Chief Smith.

I remember my dad being pulled over in Florida with out-of-state plates, we were traveling for vacation. The cop tore into my dad. I was about 6 my sister 5. The cop was yelling so loud we started crying. He humiliated my family, all for a speeding violation. My dad was able to mail in the speeding ticket so I know the violation wasn't too bad. I jsut don't see why that cop had to be so psychotic to my family. The image is burned into my head and it's been there for the past 20 years. If that's the type image "Peace Officers" want ingrained in the public's mind they've got another thing coming.

They have the power, yep, it only takes one or two lunatics to ruin an entire police department and jade the public.
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby Ferretlover » Sun 11 May 2008, 12:27:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'T')here is a big fucking difference between a police state and a cop having a little fun with a smart ass


No, not really. Wrong is Wrong.
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Sun 11 May 2008, 15:31:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'T')here is a big fucking difference between a police state and a cop having a little fun with a smart ass

No, not really. Wrong is Wrong.

A cops job is hard work with long hours. They have to put up with stupid people who are putting other peoples lives in danger including their own. Most of them deserve respect.
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Re: Man arrested for turn signal violation

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Sun 11 May 2008, 15:33:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', 'F')ew months ago I was doing 50 in a 30 zone. Didn't notice the police car behind me. On come the lights & sirens. When stopped, officer asked "what's the rush ?", I instantly apologised, didn't try any excuses, admitted my offence, expected the consequences.
Well, after a 10 minute talk on the dangers of speeding, fully safety checking my car, computer checking my licence, car insurance etc, officer gave me a "verbal", and bid me good day.
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Gasmon, are you implying that the cop in your example was a "good cop"?

Sorry... kissing a cops ass and getting out of a ticket makes the same example of the individual referenced in this thread re: going to jail for not using a turn signal. Only it's on the opposite end of the spectrum.

How you treat a cop when he arrests/detains/writes you a ticket should have little precedent in the punishment you get. Obviously there are exceptions such as "Aggravated" punishments

You commit a crime and you do the time.

If you're a blond with big tits, it doesn't mean you're immune to punishment. If you're a minority it doesn't mean you go to jail.

Crime = Punishment. That is what society expects.

I'm not trying to flame you I'm just saying that bad cops are cops who allow their emotions to get involved in their job.

Yep it's tough but it's part of the job.
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